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Post by ScoobieDoo on Jun 25, 2004 4:33:41 GMT -8
I'm curious about the above topic and wonder how deep one would consider using their Vintage Gear at.
60 ft, 100 ft, more?
I reason I am asking is this - I have been consdering diving exclusively Vintage Gear and am curious what other members deem as a maximum depth they'd use THEIR gear at, etc.
This should be fun...plse feel free to post all postive and negative thoughts, ideas, comments, etc.
Thanks,
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Jun 25, 2004 8:13:51 GMT -8
I did a vintage dive yesterday, at the Sea Tiger wreck. I went to the bottom at 125 ft. My rebuilt Royal Aquamaster, is the easiest breathing reg I own. For my work as a dive guide / instructor I use a Sherwood Maximus, and it just does not breathe that easy.
I just love the speed I have, when I do not wear a BCD, and it sure surprised the Eagle Rays, when I got right into their group.
I guess i better post some more photos, to show
Aloha Turtleguy9
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Post by ScoobieDoo on Jun 25, 2004 9:38:22 GMT -8
Plse do, I'd love to see them.
I'm pondering if a double hose rig and horsecollar would be well suited for spearfishing?
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Post by 1969ivan1 on Jun 25, 2004 13:17:28 GMT -8
Turtleguy, You are exactly right! Diving sans bc is great. I love the minimalist feeling of diving the vintage gear. It is almost like diving without any gear at all. You become fast and stealthy! I am try to locate a banjo fitting so I can ditch my pony bottle as I don't have reserve tanks. I am hoping that Padi or somebody will start a double hose certification as that will help us divers in getting permission to dive our vintage regs of off of Dive Charters. Unfortunately a lot of dive operators out of ignorance get nervous and will not allow u to dive with out an octo or a bcd.
I have taken several of my vintage regs well below 100 feet and have no problems doing so. On the recent Vintage Dive with Bryan Pennington and crew in Northern Florida I managed to make it to the edge of the flow in Blue Springs. If my memory is correct that was about 108 feet.
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Post by pearldiver on Jun 25, 2004 15:23:24 GMT -8
 Hi. I started diving in 1967. I have to this date never bought a new kind of BC, the vest kind, and when I put one on in about 1979 when they made the new kind, I couldn't handle it. I tried one in a pool, and almost had a panic attack and never used one again. The dive shop owner wants me to buy a new kind and cringes when I use my Scubapro black horsecollar vest and Aquarius regulator with my octo of about a 1967 Dacor single hose. About 99% of the time, I use my DUI neoprene drysuit with Double hose regulator to underwater metal detect. If I wreck dive I use my DUI with single hose units (as above) and a pressure guage by Farallon. I used to use a Germany one with bars instead of psi, but no one else liked the thing, and couldn't read it if I asked them to, so I parked that one. If I go cave diving, that is another story, all different equipment now, and if I went cave diving right now, I would have to buy some new gear. I haven't been cave diving since 1982. So.... I dunno. I can't see spending 500.00 on a new vest kind of BC and feel like I am going to pass out any minute. I guess I will continue to make people cringe when I go diving. I used to raise boats in the river here when they sunk. I have learned a long time ago. Don't have anything extra on you don't need, and make sure it is tucked away and not hanging down or able to grab onto anything. You will surely be in trouble. But that is my opinion...... gayle
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Jun 25, 2004 22:13:16 GMT -8
Aloha Ivan, as to diving off a charterboat, you can always come to Hawaii, and dive off the boat I work on.
I keep meaning, to write and submit a Vintage Scuba Specialty to Padi, but never seen to get it done.
How Deep would I dive a vintage reg or gear? I would dive it to 200 or so, when I did my dive yesterday, it was my third dive for the day, and I ended up in deco mode on my computer, by the end. If I did a really deep one, well twin tanks, a spg, and computer would be a must. A BCD?, perhaps not, I can free dive to 90, and really know my bouyancy. But I would need a buddy.
Aloha Turtleguy6
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Post by ScoobieDooo on Jun 25, 2004 23:21:56 GMT -8
How Deep would I dive a vintage reg or gear? I would dive it to 200 or so, when I did my dive yesterday, it was my third dive for the day, and I ended up in deco mode on my computer, by the end. If I did a really deep one, well twin tanks, a spg, and computer would be a must. A BCD?, perhaps not, I can free dive to 90, and really know my bouyancy. Aloha Turtleguy6 Turtleguy - may I ask what double hose reg you'd take to 200 ft? |
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Jun 25, 2004 23:34:45 GMT -8
Turtleguy - may I ask what double hose reg you'd take to 200 ft? Right now? I imagine it would be one of my Royal Aquamasters. I have a Voit Trieste, that has just been rebuilt, and have not tried it yet. But I have it easy here, warm 80 degree water, and 100+ ft vis, and the fact that I dive almost every day for work |
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Post by jamiep3 on Jun 26, 2004 12:37:01 GMT -8
Just getting into vintage. Since I don't have anyone to dive vintage with, this summer I'm limiting myself to 60' or less. I learned to dive in the 70's with a hard pack, steel 72 and a Calypso J.
Just picked up a new/old Calypso J that I also plan to dive this summer. You can't beat the freedom of going this minimal approach.
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Post by 1969ivan1 on Jun 26, 2004 15:53:08 GMT -8
Hey there Turtleguy.....If I ever come to Hawaii I will definately dive with u. I have seen u deal on Ebay and already knew u were a heavy hitter when it comes to Vintage gear. The problem is of course I live in Cincinnati Ohio and I am a simple Caveman ha ha also known as a civil servant, and a trip to Hawii would break me  . Perhaps someday I will make it, but I am not going to count on it. I am still trying to complete my vintage gear collection especially a nice set of doubles with a nice J valves. I just got back from the quarry today and had a great couple of dives in the warm boiling water in my 5mm suit at........45 degrees.....OUCH ha ha. As my buddy Greg says...the worst day diving is better than the best day working! And as I always say "2 hoses be better than one!" Arrrrggg! |
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Post by 1969ivan1 on Jun 26, 2004 15:56:56 GMT -8
I forgot....I would love to see somebody get a 2 hose certification course, but PADI? I think Padi would freak out over "safety" reasons. Maybe NAUI or another one? That is a cert that I would definately sign up for ASAP!
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Jun 26, 2004 22:09:21 GMT -8
I forgot....I would love to see somebody get a 2 hose certification course, but PADI? I think Padi would freak out over "safety" reasons. Maybe NAUI or another one? That is a cert that I would definately sign up for ASAP! I am not sure, but diving vintage scuba has got to be safer than diving rebreathers, and Padi did allow those courses. Of course I could alway submit to SDI, IDEA, or NASE, as I am keeping those certs current also. Aloha Turtleguy |
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Post by Captain on Jun 27, 2004 11:20:40 GMT -8
Why should I need a double hose cert when that is what I learned to dive with.
Tom
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Jun 27, 2004 13:25:53 GMT -8
Why should I need a double hose cert when that is what I learned to dive with. Tom No reason to Tom. Some of us,however started diving much later,and might wish a course in how to do things. Aloha Turtleguy9 |
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Post by caveman on Jun 27, 2004 15:25:09 GMT -8
I agree with Turtleguy, I can always use a few good pointers. caveman
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Hi. I started diving in 1967. I have to this date never bought a new kind of BC, the vest kind, and when I put one on in about 1979 when they made the new kind, I couldn't handle it. I tried one in a pool, and almost had a panic attack and never used one again. The dive shop owner wants me to buy a new kind and cringes when I use my Scubapro black horsecollar vest and Aquarius regulator with my octo of about a 1967 Dacor single hose. About 99% of the time, I use my DUI neoprene drysuit with Double hose regulator to underwater metal detect. If I wreck dive I use my DUI with single hose units (as above) and a pressure guage by Farallon. I used to use a Germany one with bars instead of psi, but no one else liked the thing, and couldn't read it if I asked them to, so I parked that one. If I go cave diving, that is another story, all different equipment now, and if I went cave diving right now, I would have to buy some new gear. I haven't been cave diving since 1982. So.... I dunno. I can't see spending 500.00 on a new vest kind of BC and feel like I am going to pass out any minute. I guess I will continue to make people cringe when I go diving. I used to raise boats in the river here when they sunk. I have learned a long time ago. Don't have anything extra on you don't need, and make sure it is tucked away and not hanging down or able to grab onto anything. You will surely be in trouble. But that is my opinion...... gayle
. Perhaps someday I will make it, but I am not going to count on it. I am still trying to complete my vintage gear collection especially a nice set of doubles with a nice J valves. I just got back from the quarry today and had a great couple of dives in the warm boiling water in my 5mm suit at........45 degrees.....OUCH ha ha. As my buddy Greg says...the worst day diving is better than the best day working! And as I always say "2 hoses be better than one!" Arrrrggg!
