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Post by Nemo on Dec 18, 2014 21:03:58 GMT -8
More pictures! Thanks, Jaybird!
I've heard a few reports saying that this harness was advertised in an early "Diving Corporation of America" products catalog from the early 1950's. Does anyone have one of those catalog? Maybe we could get a scan of the page? Just a thought.
We're learning a lot about this topic in a fairly short time and I think this search is coming along nicely. Mahalo grande, y'all! :-)
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Post by Nemo on Dec 26, 2014 11:28:39 GMT -8
UPDATE: Heard from Jerry Greenberg: it is a harness made and sold by Paul Arnold's shop in Florida back in the early 50's. It was lighter and less expensive than the USD harnesses of the time, according to Jerry. It does appear to be the same type of rig used by Ed Fisher on his 24 hour dive in 1954, but we can't say for sure whether it is one of those he actually used.
Also heard back from John, the previous owner. He said his father bought it at a garage sale a few years ago. He has no other information about it.
About the blood: upon examining it more closely, I am surprised at how much blood is actually on the tank and harness. I am still observing "officer safety" protocols regarding possible contamination. The feeling I get is that SeaRat is probably right: fish blood. If so, it could lean in the direction of this being one of Ed Fisher's tanks because they did spear and eat fish during that 24 hours; but I still can't say that for sure.
I will send it to the lab in Hilo to have the blood tested in the New Year. I want to know.
I have a set of "winebottles" ready to make a Leagues duals rig out of. I also have this "Mystery Rig" and a yellow vintage Rene I bought recently from Russ Kolifrath. I am in no big hurry to tear either of those vintage rigs apart and make another set of duals out of them. In fact, I'm thinking I already have enough duals for any kind of display we want to set up, and that display might do well to include a couple "regular" vintage scuba rigs from that time period. So while I bought these rigs with the intention of making Leagues duals out of them; they have received a reprieve and will remain untouched as the vintage rigs they are; at least for now.
Okay, day after Christmas and I'm cleaning up the shop. Life is good.
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Post by Nemo on Dec 26, 2014 11:35:09 GMT -8
P.S. Looking at the blood stains, it could be there was a bloody fish (or parts thereof), possibly on a deck or the ground, and the rig was laid down on it and then moved (dragged?) across it lengthwise from top to bottom, as if dragged a short distance by the valve.
To me, it doesn't look like a person sustained a serious wound and bled onto the tank or harness. And I am extremely happy about that. :-)
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Post by mayagaia on Jun 25, 2015 12:08:06 GMT -8
Well Nemo - it was rather fun being reminded of my diving exploits way back around 1954 with Paul Arnold, Jordan Klein and Jerry Greenberg. Most interesting to see the Miami News story 1956 by Jane Wood - riding a sea-sled I designed and had constructed using surplus WWII stuff featuring two medic litters that formed the sides of the sled. I'm now age 87 and Jerry same age and I think Jordan is around 93 and last year he said he was still piloting his plane - which is really amazing. I'm pretty reclusive and spend most all my time organizing all my various webpages into an Anthropic Trilogy web-book which you can Google...thanks for the memories.
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Post by mayagaia on Jun 3, 2020 20:01:48 GMT -8
Being in quarantine from the Covid - I have time to spare surfing the web and happened on this thread after posting 5 years ago. Few months ago I had contact with Jerry Greenberg' son Michael and he said Jerry is living alone in a trailer down in the Florida Keys and regularly scuba dives the reefs photo-documenting his project of restoring coral grafts to the depleted reef. We're same age- 92 - but unlike me, his passion for diving never waned. Just want to clear up the theory of blood stains - I speared and ate part of one fish on my 24-hour dive and there is absolutely no chance of any blood attaching to my scuba harness. The regulator was a DiveAir which Healthways briefly marketed after my dive. Best, Ed Fisher evolution-involution.org
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Post by SeaRat on Jun 3, 2020 22:05:39 GMT -8
Being in quarantine from the Covid - I have time to spare surfing the web and happened on this thread after posting 5 years ago. Few months ago I had contact with Jerry Greenberg' son Michael and he said Jerry is living alone in a trailer down in the Florida Keys and regularly scuba dives the reefs photo-documenting his project of restoring coral grafts to the depleted reef. We're same age- 92 - but unlike me, his passion for diving never waned. Just want to clear up the theory of blood stains - I speared and ate part of one fish on my 24-hour dive and there is absolutely no chance of any blood attaching to my scuba harness. The regulator was a DiveAir which Healthways briefly marketed after my dive. Best, Ed Fisher evolution-involution.org Ed, Good to hear from you! Yes, we've all been having problems with the COVID-19 lockdown. That information about Jerry Greenberg is great, and it is good to hear he's still diving, as are you, apparently. I have some of Jerry's books.p, including "Fish Men Fear...Shark," and "Adventures of a Reefcomber." Now, if you would, could you describe your 24 hour dive in more detail? Somewhere I've seen a write-up on your dive, but cannot place it. For you who don't know, Ed is one of the original divers from way back. His 24 hour dive was written up in the book by Tim Ecott, Neutral Buoyancy. John
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Post by SeaRat on Jun 9, 2020 17:10:46 GMT -8
Ed, I just found my other two books by Jerry Greenberg, Underwater Photography, and the one you're featured in, Manfish with a Camera. For those of you unfamiliar with Ed Fisher, he and Jerry Greenberg teamed up for several years on various projects. One project was the dive described above, which Jerry Greenberg wrote up in his book, Manfish with a Camera in the chapter titled, "24 hours beneath the sea." To respect Jerry's copyright, I won't reproduce the photos from this chapter, but will quote a couple of paragraphs. Ed did the 24 hour dive underwater, and this account is a great one. I would encourage anyone interested to get a copy of the book. The next chapter in this book is entitled " Cave diving," and documents the assignment that Ed and Jerry received from Sports Illustrated to shoot the first color flash pictures in the tunnels of Florida's caves. Remember, this was before cave diving was a specialty dive course, and before the National Association of Cave Divers, which was formed in 1968. Remember, they were diving double hose regulators too. I think Ed was still using the DivAir. John
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Post by scubalawyer on Jun 9, 2020 20:14:09 GMT -8
I met Mr. Greenberg in 1995 down in the Keys. It was a very short, Hi, how are ya kind of greeting. I had just finished getting my Aquanaut certification through Scott Carpenter following 24 hours in an underwater habitat. Greenberg was having lunch in the same local diner where we were eating and the person I was with knew him. Would have loved to go on a dive with him but had to get back to Coral Gabels for a party I had been invited to. Good memories at least.
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Post by vance on Jul 7, 2020 13:22:19 GMT -8
That's nothing. I've met Mark Spencer.
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Post by scubalawyer on Jul 7, 2020 14:02:55 GMT -8
That's nothing. I've met Mark Spencer. I can assure you that my reputation is purely fabricated by others. 😎
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