Possible Adaptor For Hope Page Mouthpiece

[Terry]

Recently I just acquired my first Healthways Scuba reg that came with a Hope Page mouthpiece and I am now in the process of restoring it for use this coming dive season. While doing some searches for info in regards to this reg and mouthpiece I see that others have done the same, and some you have been looking for a solution for an adaptor so 1-1/2" hoses can be used with the Hope Page. I've been doing some experimenting with mine and I think / hope I might have found a solution. I have a couple of 1-1/2" plastic tailpieces that are 4" in length and they seem to work perfectly. These tailpieces are the part that comes off of the bottom of your sink drain and can be found at any local hardware. The flange that is on the one end has to be turned down very slightly so it will fit within the collar that screws onto the Hope Page. I accomplished this by. fitting it on the end of my drill and spinning it on some emery paper to slowly turn it down to the right diameter so it fit within the HP collar. Some of the hoses I have almost fit but I did have to make a rubber sleeve to slide over it, and that worked perfectly. First I cut the plastic tailpieces to the same length as the 1" hose connectors on the HP and then turned down the flanges to fit within the HP collar. I then cut some rubber (inner tube material) pieces about 3/4" wide and then to the right length to wrap around the 1-1/2" tailpiece. After being fitted for the correct length I then glued the ends together with wetsuit cement and was now able to slide this rubber piece over the tailpiece. I was then able to slide my new blue hoses (From Rob at The Scuba Museum) on and attach the hose clamp and everything fit perfectly. The only concern I have with this adaptor is the thickness of the walls of the tube and I think I might have that resolved. As I have mentioned these tailpieces are 4" in length; so there is plenty of tube that is not used when cutting the original part. I cut some of this extra tubing to the proper length to fit inside of the first part I cut that has the flange on one end. To make it fit I carefully cut out a slice so it would squeeze together just enough to be fitted inside of the piece that has the flange. By doing this it doubled up the thickness of the wall making this part with the flange a bit more substantial. Once this part has been fitted I then plan to use some sort of glue to fasten them together. As far as the hoses fitting that have an 1-1/2" hose cuff; it works perfectly. Hope this works well!

[nikeajax]

Terry, thanks for hat heads up: every little idea helps keep our regs in the water If I know Phil, he'll pro'lly take yer idea and run with it...

JB

[vance]

Kew! I like this! As I understand it, you are replacing the H-P 1" hose flange parts, and bolstering the pvc parts for strength. I've always liked the idea of making sink plumbing parts into a H-P style mouthpiece, and it seems you're 1/4 of the way there!

Mark (ScubaLawyer) was looking for the solution to this as well. There were some reducers being bandied about in some forum or other, but I don't think those were Mark's ideas. I thought that the reducers would be kludgy. Your idea is pretty sweet. I think that the ultimate solution is to machine new parts, but you could at least make some slip-over adapters out of delrin or pvc for the H-P parts.

[Terry]

I tried to post several pictures on here of this adaptor but have not been able to do so. Anyone interested can see them over on The VDH website where I also had some problems (most likely me) but I did manage to get them posted one at a time. I'm assuming that this adaptor is OK since it sounds as if it has received The Dr. Frankenreg Seal of Approval.

[SeaRat]

Mar 13, 2020 10:25:44 GMT -8 Terry said:

I tried to post several pictures on here of this adaptor but have not been able to do so. Anyone interested can see them over on The VDH website where I also had some problems (most likely me) but I did manage to get them posted one at a time. I'm assuming that this adaptor is OK since it sounds as if it has received The Dr. Frankenreg Seal of Approval.

Terry,

You might want to use this technique:

vintagescuba.proboards.com/thread/3622/post-image

John

[Terry]

Thanks John. I'll have to mess with it some more and see what I can come up with. I've never been the sharpest crayon in the box when it came to posting pictures on websites so I'm sure the problem is ME! Thanks again Terry

[nikeajax]

I don't do VDH, but perhaps Phil can repost 'em fer ya?

JB

[scubalawyer]

Mar 13, 2020 15:01:04 GMT -8 nikeajax said:

I don't do VDH, but perhaps Phil can repost 'em fer ya?

JB

Terry's Pics

[nikeajax]

Mark, unless you do VDH you ain't gunna see 'em:

"You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post."

Jaybird

[Terry]

Thanks Mark for transferring my pics, and thanks JB for the suggestion to have it done. By the way if any of you don't like the idea of using the plastic tailpiece they are also available in chromed brass. They should be hanging on the display rack at the hardware store right next to the plastic ones.

[scubalawyer]

I took the liberty of reproducing Terry's pics below. Mark

[SeaRat]

The advantage is not only that you can use the new silicone hoses with the 1.5 inch end, but also that it opens up the flow going into the mouthpiece. While no one probably has measured the difference, I would suspect that it does significantly improve the performance of the Hope-Page mouthpiece.

John

[nikeajax]

Very, very nice sir! Thanks for sharing your idea: it's nice to see a HP with brand new blue hoses attached

JB