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Post by nikeajax on Apr 10, 2021 14:04:28 GMT -8
Stephan, here's my Clipper: can you see the difference?  But, just in case, here ya go my friend:  It's the top can, with the exhaust horn   JB |
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Post by vance on Apr 12, 2021 14:57:37 GMT -8
JBs Clipper has a homemade LP seat lever under the OEM top lever. Look closely at it and you can see it wasn't machine cut. It works, and is a great example of what one can do to restore these vintage regs. With a bit of audacity and some work, almost any regulator can dive again!
Many modern divers would freak out about a hand made/home made part going in a regulator, but they're deluded into thinking their brand new plastic regulator is vastly superior to the "old stuff".
They don't know any better. I'd bet they don't have the slightest understanding about how their equipment works.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 21:45:53 GMT -8
It’s impressive what you guys are able to do, I’m glad you pointed it out.
What you’re saying relates to something I’ve been wondering about and would like your thoughts. I want to have a single hose regulator that I consider my primary: a very reliable and well-performing regulator that would be my go-to for more serious diving (which is seldom for me), but I want to do so without dropping much $. In your guys’ opinion, for this purpose am I better off choosing a serviced, top of the line reg from the 70’s, or choosing a low-mid quality range modern reg? This is a pretty vague comparison I realize, but I’m interested in your general feelings about this.
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 12, 2021 22:32:09 GMT -8
I would choose a top-of-the-line, serviced regulator from the 1980s, not the 1970s. The single hose regulators were still being optimized in the early 1970s. I like the metal second stages, but the plastic second stages such as my Sherwood Magnum Blizzard is also a great regulator.
John
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Post by herman on Apr 13, 2021 2:42:57 GMT -8
Find a later Conshelf or a earlier Titan (same reg internally) and pair that with a couple of Scubapro 109 second stages. They will serve you well, are simple to service and parts are easy to come by.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 4:02:50 GMT -8
I’m really glad you brought that up. I was curious about 80s ones, but didn’t know if that would be taboo to mention for a vintage enthusiast group!
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Post by vance on Apr 13, 2021 7:18:02 GMT -8
A Titan II with the MR12 style first, or an MR12 II or III are also good choices for a light weight, high performance setup.
A lot of us dive a mix of modern and vintage gear. This forum is generally focused on pre-1980 or so gear, but no one is going to get their knickers in a bunch over discussions about newer stuff.
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 13, 2021 8:10:37 GMT -8
Stephan, I have a Voit Titan-II with a matching octo if you're interested? It has a really good Tee on it to run your other stuff  JB EDIT: Oh, and everything has been upgraded, new seat and pushpin, and new second stage diaphragms too |
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Post by snark3 on Apr 13, 2021 12:57:30 GMT -8
I'll throw my 2 cuft in here scubastephano. I'm a fan of the Conshelf line. I have pictures of a diver diving the Andrea Doria (225 ft +/-) with a Conshelf 21. A guy from a LDS I visit regularly also dove the Doria with a Scuba Pro MK5/109. My thinking is if these regulators were good enough to dive the Doria in the 90's they're good enough for me to do a beach dive now. Both are easy to service and parts are readily available.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 7:36:58 GMT -8
Thanks for the feedback guys! I should have mentioned that for this setup, it’s absolutely imperative that it is one I can have serviced relatively easily at almost any LDS. Even if it is simple to work on and easy to acquire parts, for my peace of mind I need to be hands-off for this one. How might this requirement affect your recommendations? also, I picked up another R3, hoping to apply what you’re teaching me here to this one as well. Attachments:
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 16, 2021 8:41:48 GMT -8
It’s impressive what you guys are able to do, I’m glad you pointed it out. What you’re saying relates to something I’ve been wondering about and would like your thoughts. I want to have a single hose regulator that I consider my primary: a very reliable and well-performing regulator that would be my go-to for more serious diving (which is seldom for me), but I want to do so without dropping much $. In your guys’ opinion, for this purpose am I better off choosing a serviced, top of the line reg from the 70’s, or choosing a low-mid quality range modern reg? This is a pretty vague comparison I realize, but I’m interested in your general feelings about this. As I stated in my thread on my shed, I just found two modern Dacor regulators, which I could send to you with only the price of the shipping. They were given to me, so I don’t feel like charging for them. I’ll post a photo later. There is the problem that parts are not available, but with two of them probably you could use parts from one for the other. Dacor was bought by Mares, and then Mares discontinued support of any of the Dacor regulators. But they were doing some really good work on regulators too. John |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 8:47:36 GMT -8
Haha I hadn’t given a close look yet but I knew something looked really strange- updated photo there. For just shipping cost I might have to take you up on the offer! I have quite of bit of Dacor stuff, and my dad’s friend is giving me a bunch of his old Dacor regs. They all still work great and I really like them, but yes I worry about being able to service them down the road when they give me trouble.
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 16, 2021 9:10:54 GMT -8
They all still work great and I really like them, but yes I worry about being able to service them down the road when they give me trouble.
BAHHHHHH! Fear not my friend, you're just over thinking it: you just have to be patient and collect your spare parts as you learn to service them yourself  JB |
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 16, 2021 9:26:46 GMT -8
After sending my HW tank to be hydro'ed and seeing it come back this way...  I told myself that no shop will ever work on my gear  JB |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 10:15:51 GMT -8
I appreciate your confidence in me! Although it’s important to note that while you’re hand-crafting custom parts, I didn’t even notice I had the damn thing upside down lol..although I place partial blame on the person who put the face on upside down haha
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