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Post by SeaRat on Nov 11, 2006 17:28:08 GMT -8
...I dont really do free diving or snorkling much. I need a suit that I can wear in 55 degree water - 5 mil wouldnt cut it - would it?. Ive thought about wearing a dive skin underneath... Depends, There was a guy who was a NAUI Instructor Trainer, who would order a 3/16" wet suit (Farmer John Style), and then order a 1/4" shorty wet suit with dimensions added so that he could wear it over the wet suit for really cold dives. He wore that combination ice diving. What he found was that the 3/16 inch suit provided the flexibility he wanted for swimming, and the shorty wet suit provided added protection around his middle (the "shorty" style is a step-in suit with legs down to just above the knees, and arms half way to the elbow). He swore that this was the best, most flexible wet suit combination that he had ever used. He used the shorty in the tropics, the rest of the suit he mixed and matched depending upon the depth and water temperature that he was diving. I had two suits made in the 1980s by Harvey's Wet Suits. They were both skin-in, nylon out suits. Both suits were Farmer John style pants with knee pads and no zippers (I hate zippers), a pull-over jacket with an upside-down zipper starting at the chest and zipping down to the beaver tail connection. It had a velcro beaver tail too. One was a 1/4 inch, for really cold diving. The other was a 3/16 inch suit with 1/8 inch arms. I still have the 1/4 inch suit, but the lighter suit has long since worn out (I still have the tops, but they are in bad shape). I found that I used the 3/16 inch suit much more than the 1/4 inch suit, again because of the flexibility. This is the 1/4 inch suit top that I'm wearing, but that was a few years ago, and I need to loose a few pounds (like 20) to be comfortable in it now. One other style that I have worn is a 3/16 inch hooded vest under the wet suit. This also provides a very warm combination. John The NAUI Instructor's name was John Reseck, and he wrote the the book, Scuba: Safe and Simple[/B] (it took a while to get that name out of my memory banks): www.amazon.com/Scuba-Safe-Simple-John-Reseck/dp/0137968302/sr=1-2/qid=1163295380/ref=sr_1_2/002-7158107-5220012?ie=UTF8&s=books
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Post by OystrPir8 on Nov 11, 2006 17:52:03 GMT -8
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Post by OystrPir8 on Nov 11, 2006 21:16:11 GMT -8
It's been bugging me for the last 3 hours .... "the last one to buy it? "
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Post by OystrPir8 on Nov 12, 2006 15:04:33 GMT -8
Maybe I didnt make myself clear - I am not planning on buying this wetsuit unless it sits and sits and no one else wants it. Have at it guys! Id love to see it go to someone around here who would enjoy it. There is a buy it now option! Am I being a geek? Is this not a good suit?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2006 16:13:27 GMT -8
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Post by nemrod on Nov 12, 2006 17:18:26 GMT -8
I thinking that suit looks great, the one Oyster is talking about, but it is a medium small. In modern sizing that is probably a small. Not only have people gotten bigger but clothing sizes of today are different from 30 years ago. My XL vintage suit fits me like a modern medium large. I am 5-11 and 185 pounds, 32 waist, if I am a vintage XL then that small/medium would be awfully tight on me--lol. Nemrod
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Post by SeaRat on Nov 13, 2006 6:03:04 GMT -8
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Post by Gomez' echo on Nov 13, 2006 7:30:18 GMT -8
Before you buy any modern built "vintage" suit, contact Elossub. Here is their link. www.eliossub.com/html/en_diving.htmlTell them exactly what you want. They will make you a suit that fits, looks great and is as close to vintage as I have found. I have one and absolutely love it. They will put in zippers, make hoods, etc. My suit has their logo, but will make them without it. Prices are in euros, but comparible to good US suits. Great service. I am happy with mine and I have 2 excellent vinatge suits, circa 1964 and 1972. The Elos is great. Allan
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Post by OystrPir8 on Nov 13, 2006 7:54:16 GMT -8
Allan - that sounds great! Are we talking in the $200-300 the $600-700 range, what? Would love to see photos of yours if you get a chance!
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Post by Gomez' echo on Nov 13, 2006 8:21:05 GMT -8
The price WAS in the $200-300 range, but that all depends on the euros/dollar status. Here are two photos. First is just me. Second is a group from Sand Dog II. The far left is a modern, nylon on outside. You can see me in my Elos and on the right is my dive buddy Fred in an original Parkway. Both photos were taken by David Haas, see his web page for more beautiful underwater photos www.haasimages.com
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Post by shackle on Nov 13, 2006 9:19:19 GMT -8
Hi, I am new to the site. Enjoy all your posts. OystrPir8, I have an old U. S. Divers 5 mil and wore it up in Puget sound this past summer over a 1 mil jump suit. Water temp was 55 degrees and it was fine.
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Post by duckbill on Nov 13, 2006 9:40:53 GMT -8
Thanks for sharing those, Allan. Nothing spells early vintage like the gloss of a smooth-out suit. Was your Elios custom fit or made with a stock pattern size? How easy were they to communicate with in english? Do they understand "twist locks" and such? Very nice looking.
Welcome, shackle.
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Post by Gomez' echo on Nov 13, 2006 10:55:44 GMT -8
I could fit into a stock suit. I am not very large and that has made the acquision of vintage gear much easier for me (not withstanding the costs). They make a custom suit also. I had little problelm with the language difference. They seemed to be very cooperative. Email worked the best. Allan
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Post by OystrPir8 on Nov 13, 2006 14:00:01 GMT -8
See, now that's what a diver is supposed to look like. Great oval mask too - what kind is it? Thats great to know Shackle! I will look into a 2 mil dive skin. What country is Elios based out of?
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Post by Gomez' echo on Nov 13, 2006 14:51:44 GMT -8
I think the top picture is a Nemrod, Majorica model. The fins are also Nemrod. They are the Venturi Power, an idea that really doesn't work. USD made one called the Spoiler in 1972. The reg is a Nemrod Snark III Silver circa 1970's. The lower photo I am using a USD Equirama. That is sort of my interest. I pick a year and try to get all the gear from that year. Recently I have "picked" on 1972, the year of the Spoiler fin introduction. So if all goes as planned I would like to dive 1972 at Portage, OH. But then there is 1960, 61, . . . . . . . . . Elossub is an Italian company.
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