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Post by sbfan2015 on Sept 21, 2016 14:46:39 GMT -8
Shall we discuss the gear?
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 21, 2016 21:07:12 GMT -8
I have not seen "Flipper" enough to recall the gear used. Maybe others can chime in?
Mark
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 22, 2016 7:10:17 GMT -8
Gosh, I've tried sooooo many times to like Flipper: I just can't! I do remember "Dad" using what looked like a Calypso-I (model-1030) as seen in this image, I know you like wet suits so I threw this image in for you    JB |
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 22, 2016 8:58:01 GMT -8
Way off topic...but since Jay showed off the US Divers Calypso reg. I have the Voit "40 Fathom" reg., which I think the 2nd stage is very similar? It uses the same diaphragm I think?, any idea of where I could find a useable diaphragm?
I understand that a US Divers Conshelf diaphragm fits and can be modified, but that is out of my talent scope right now.
Thanks, and back to Flipper.
Mark
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 22, 2016 9:29:26 GMT -8
 Mark, I hate to tell ya, your comment is still on this topic, as both pieces of gear use the exact same part  USD or Voit, same reg, different label... There were two models that used the same boxes/cans, the Calypso and the... Eben, was it you who made a diaphragm for yours simply by drilling holes into a modern diaphragm? JB |
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 22, 2016 9:33:17 GMT -8
No, I meant off topic in that what I had to say had bugger all to do with Flipper! If I knew more on Flipper and the kit used, I'd add more actual input, as I do think it is interesting.
Mark
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 22, 2016 10:19:56 GMT -8
DRW, can you ID these masks?   Speaking of kids shows one of the things I really love about Clutch Cargo is that they always tried to use real stuff...    That's a DW Mistral! JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Sept 22, 2016 14:47:18 GMT -8
The masks in the cartoon drawings, and the yellow one in the photo above, are U.S. Divers Company/La Spiro Squale masks. That, by the way, is the same mask that Frederick Dumas is wearing on the cover photo of Cousteau's first book, The Silent World. The head strap going into a slot on the metal rim of the mask gives it away.
I think the blue mask is a Voit mask.
John
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 22, 2016 15:34:27 GMT -8
John, thanks, I thought Clutch was using a Squale mask: I seem to recall that means shark in French... I found this image:  from later episodes, note the new styling of the second stage... Hmmm, here's dad using what looks like a C-1 to me:  Of course Flipper is what happens when you smash Lassie head on at 120-mph with Sea Hunt...  The original Lassie was cool with Jeff; Timmy on the other hand should have been eaten by a bear in the first episode! My wife and I call her "Lassie the Bad Luck Dog" after renting a Lassie DVD they kept showing only the ones where Lassie was getting a new master because her old master was always having something horrible happening to them. Like Ranger Corey, geeeez, he was dying of third degree burns from a forest fire etc.... JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Sept 22, 2016 16:23:03 GMT -8
Yes, that is the first generation Calypso that dad is using.
Now, tomcatpc, you asked about making another diaphragm for the Voit 50 Fathom; I think that can be done, as I seem to remember comparing the diaphragm plate on the older second and third generation Calypso/Conshelf regulators, and that plate was the same size as the original with the mushroom exhaust in the center. I think one can carefully pull the diaphragm plate off one of those newer diaphragms, and replacing it with the Calypso/Voit 50 Fathom diaphragm plate. I'll check later. If so, then that goes half-way to getting a "new" diaphragm, or at least one that works. The other thing is the mushroom valve itself. I have used the mushroom valve off a Scubapro Shotgun snorkel (the smaller one, which I think they called a "Mini-Shotgun") for the exhaust mushroom valve. I did that for my Calypso.
John
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 22, 2016 17:25:26 GMT -8
I've on Vintage Double Hose a Conshelf/modern Titan Diaphragm being modified by removing the material in the centre, and having a small hole for the exhaust valve and three or four holes for the exhaust. There is a topic on it and I'll link it up when I get the time.
I get the gist of what to do, but I don't have a drill press and I'd feel more confident if I could just pay someone to convert one for me... But I have other projects ahead of me before I have to consider the next step on this one...
As to the gear on the Flipper photos...that is how I love to dive! A tank, with backpack, weight belt, mask, fins, and either a double hose reg or a single hose with just a first and second stage and J-Valve.
Where I'm at I can dive with that setup and a shorty wetsuit if I play it right, but looking forward to diving where I can just where a pair of shorts!
There is just something "iconic" about diving like that...I can't explain and sure that sounded weird, but hey.
Mark
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Sept 23, 2016 1:11:22 GMT -8
I was astounded when I looked up the chronology of the original series: 1964-1967! So long ago. That helped me to date the gear. It's really hard to tell, but the colours give a clue: yellow and blue. So judge for yourself if I plump for the US Divers "Champion" Deluxe mask and "Aquatic" snorkel from the 1963 catalogue:  All credit to the Vintage Double Hose website for the above image extracted from Bryan Pennington's wonderful "Manuals and Catalogs" collection on the same page. I recall seeing some episodes of the original "Flipper" series here in the UK, probably during the 1970s or 1980s. I loved the colourful masks, fins and snorkels, as well as the idyllic life the young people seemed to live. The equivalent gear in Europe didn't always come in a range of colours. I disliked the later "Flipper" series mainly because the cast used composite fins and silicone masks. |
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 23, 2016 16:46:28 GMT -8
I recall seeing some episodes of the original "Flipper" series here in the UK, probably during the 1970s or 1980s. I loved the colourful masks, fins and snorkels, as well as the idyllic life the young people seemed to live. The equivalent gear in Europe didn't always come in a range of colours. I disliked the later "Flipper" series mainly because the cast used composite fins and silicone masks. I think a whole lotta stuff might be better if they just gave things a different name: people who remember the original shows can't watch the newer versions because they are expecting it to live up to what they remember, and 99% of the time it can't! I'm a HUGE fan of the first season of the Flintstones and Huckleberry Hound, that's where Yogi bear came from BTW, and yet they remake these time and again, Dan Akroyd can never be Daws Butler, Yogi's Voice, and John Goodman just ain't Fred Flintstone neither! I might watch something if I see dive gear, but not if they use only the name and all of what was swell and boss is gone: in 1987 they tried to remake Sea Hunt, "Yeah, keep dreamin' lad, one day ya might believe it, but somehow, I doubt it!" JB |
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 26, 2016 8:31:52 GMT -8
Huh.... found this site: www.cpps90.com/luke/index.htmlLuke Halpin played the dreamy older brother "Sandy" Ricks; that had to be so that they'd get teenage girls to watch... Here's an image from said site showing the masks:  JB |
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