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Post by nikeajax on Apr 26, 2018 10:13:45 GMT -8
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 26, 2018 16:54:28 GMT -8
Diggin' the Sea Lion Mk. II!!! Doesn't hurt that it is from my ancestral nation! Mark
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Apr 28, 2018 7:22:05 GMT -8
If you're looking for information about East European regulators, Dušan Šuráni's Czech website is a good place to start. Try the double-hose pages starting from www.vsc-ds.cz/sbirka/dvouhadicove-automatiky-regulatory. There are many photographs and descriptions of parts for regulators from the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Yugoslavia, East Germany as well as several models from the UK, West Germany and France. Poland is not only represented by the Kaiman but also the Mors made in the Polish port of Gdansk: Here is the parts nomenclature for this regulator: If you like to have measurements, then there's a document at www.vsc-ds.cz/soubory/priloha/274/technicke-udaje-polskych-potapecskych-automatik.pdf where the basic parameters of the Kaiman and the Mors are compared. Hope this helps. DRW
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 28, 2018 7:46:06 GMT -8
DRW, thanks, but I was just trying to get people to talk--I find it sad and pathetic that you of all people are the only person to ad to the topic with anything of value--you don't even do scuba! Oh well, can't say that I've tried here: I've got way more important things to do!
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Post by vance on Apr 28, 2018 8:17:34 GMT -8
Thanks for the link to the Polish site, DRW! Very interesting.
I am a bit inttigued by the Russian regulators I've seen posted on eBay, but we've gone over those recently when Crabby was thinking about getting the Kaiman listed there. You don't see many opportunities to pick one of the European units up.
I don't think many of us on the board have any of these less common regs.
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Post by vance on Apr 28, 2018 8:38:50 GMT -8
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Post by CG-45.com on Apr 28, 2018 11:18:44 GMT -8
Hi there! I have some nice European regulators in my collection and some nice informations... www.cg-45.com
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 28, 2018 21:22:04 GMT -8
Hi there! I have some nice European regulators in my collection and some nice informations... www.cg-45.comCG-45, I never realized that Mares had a regulator, the Sea King. Could you give us more information about this Sea King regulator from Mares? I would enjoy knowing more about this. Jaybird, I understand your frustration, but give it some time to materialize. I have been rather busy, and have been more interested in fins and masks than regulators recently. I have been looking again at the Force Fins, as I recently got mine back after a 1.5+ year hiatus. And I have some interesting observations about tHem too. I will cover that on s differen thread. The only non-USA regulator I have is my Nemrod Snark III. As Jaybird knows, I have modified mine extensively. The reason is that this regulator has, in my opinion, an engineering problem that affects breathing effort. I have written about this extensively here is years past, but think that the photos were lost due to the PhotoBucket policy change. So I will detail this problem again here. I conducted a series of tests some twenty years ago, and determined that the Snark III Venturi somewhat defeated itself by aiming the stream of Venturi air upward, and not directly down the intake hose. This actually results in the Venturi air pushing the very nice, flexible LP diaphragm upwards, shutting down the Venturi flow at high flow rates. I corrected this by building an air deflector out of plastic f of a milk jug. This deflector effectively deflected the Snark III's Venturi air directly down the intake horn and inhalation hose. This deflector also protects the diaphragm from being pushed up by the Venturi air. In addition, a few years ago Vintage Frank gave me a Heinke mouthpiece for this regulator, as the Original mouthpiece is quite small and inhibits air flow too. But the original mouthpiece has a very small internal volume, and so is very easy to clear. With these two modifications, the Snark III breaths like a Mistral at about 300 psig; in other words, fantastic! I will post some photos as soon as I get them loaded into Flickr. John
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Apr 29, 2018 2:17:56 GMT -8
Hi there! I have some nice European regulators in my collection and some nice informations... www.cg-45.comThank you, CG-45, for the thought and effort you have put into your excellent website. As JB has mentioned, I'm not into scuba and therefore don't have experience with, or expertise in, regulators, but I do have strong and deep interests in other items of diving equipment, particularly masks, snorkels, fins and suits. I have found your catalogue collection at www.cg-45.com/downloads/index.php?dir=Catalogs%2Flink particularly valuable when researching underwater gear history. My own digitised catalogue collection is at drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bw7z_4bLjOOEZDJJaTEzQk1qUWc. These PDF documents were scanned from paper copies in my possession. I sympathise with JB's frustration and his efforts to keep the conversation going here. His keen interest in everything that is posted on this forum is one of the main reasons I keep coming back here again and again. On other diving forums, I don't always sense the same camaraderie and the research I share in the threads I start myself often turns the thread into a comment-poor blog instead of a genuine conversation. In those circumstances, I still try to reach out to others, even if those "others" are the yet unborn historians of the future who may value the spadework I've done on hard-to-find printed sources when I'm long gone. This thought keeps me posting when there's little contemporaneous response and I'm excited by the possibility that more people in the distant future will get to read my research this way than would do so if I put everything into a book that didn't sell. DRW
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 29, 2018 7:25:11 GMT -8
Here is one of the photos I have now uploaded: I will post the other two or three when I get back from church. John
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 29, 2018 8:43:24 GMT -8
John, my patients is wearing very thin here as you can see: I know for certain we have Europeans on this forum! There's a really simple to use tool right here: translate.google.com/So trying use limited English-skills as an excuse doesn't cut it, no not really! We have hundreds of members, if not thousands on this forum, but how many actually participate, perhaps ten, but on a regular basis who show passion? It's only halfway in jest that I say we should start calling this the Healthways forum. As the saying goes, "Don't just stand there, do something!" I don't expect all our members to participate, but fer crying out loud, say something once in a while, even if it's just: "私はそれらの1つを持って、私はそれについてもっと知りたい!" Hey look, I wrote something in Japanese--who'da freakin' thought I could do that: and what it said was, "I have one of those, I want to know more about it!" SIGH! JB
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Post by crabbyjim on Apr 29, 2018 10:20:46 GMT -8
J.B.,
Google translate works well for Spanish, German and French but not so much for Polish, Hungarian, Turkish and a few others that I am know of. If you are familiar with the Vintage Diving in Turkiye site, you know that google translate produces some hilarious gibberish on a regular basis.
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 29, 2018 11:44:24 GMT -8
Okay, I'm back from church; I sing in the church choir (tenor) and needed to head out this morning. Here are the other two photos of the inside of the Nemrod Snark III, with the plastic baffle attached to the screw holes. As you can see, this completely protects the diaphragm from the Venturi air, while also channeling the air right down the intake hose. John
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 29, 2018 12:04:37 GMT -8
John, my patients is wearing very thin here as you can see: I know for certain we have Europeans on this forum! There's a really simple to use tool right here: translate.google.com/So trying use limited English-skills as an excuse doesn't cut it, no not really! We have hundreds of members, if not thousands on this forum, but how many actually participate, perhaps ten, but on a regular basis who show passion? It's only halfway in jest that I say we should start calling this the Healthways forum. As the saying goes, "Don't just stand there, do something!" I don't expect all our members to participate, but fer crying out loud, say something once in a while, even if it's just: "私はそれらの1つを持って、私はそれについてもっと知りたい!" Hey look, I wrote something in Japanese--who'da freakin' thought I could do that: and what it said was, "I have one of those, I want to know more about it!" SIGH! JB "I have one of them, I want to know more about it!" Jaybird, my wife has "patients" at a he Oregon Health and Science University intensive care unit (ICU), where she does patient consults with a team of doctors and nurses about their medications; but you have lost a bit of your "patience" with the lack of activity on this thread. Google Translate is a great tool for promoting understanding between people who speak different languages, but it does make mistakes that a native speaker will recognize. When at my last job I was writing Material Safety Data Sheets for different chemicals we produced, I tried if at all possible to find a native speaker to read these translations, and correct any problems. We found this especially necessary for translations into Japanese, Korean and written Chinese. One trick I have used is to take the translation into another language, and have it translated back into English, just to ensure that it was translated into a phrase I wanted. Hopefully people with non-USA regulators will come forth and tell us about them, their quirks, how they breath, when they were manufactured, etc. We really do want to know more about these regulators. John
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 29, 2018 13:14:31 GMT -8
Why, you whipper-snapper, when I was yer age, we never sassed back! (I never was, there's the joke!) A while back, we had a guy from France, he went by "Puff" who really had wonderful input: his English wasn't perfect, but he didn't care, "Damn the torpedoes, and full speed ahead!" He wanted to learn... One of the things I do know about Nemrods is that their first DH's were identical to those of Aqualung's on the inside: I seem to recall they were called V2's named after the German rockets that they used against the Allies... Anyway, JYC was not at all pleased about this fact and there was absolutely nothing he could do when they told him figuratively where he could put it: his patents were not applicable in Spain-- SNORT! I can't help thinking it was something like this: JB
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