reidar
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Post by reidar on Jun 23, 2018 5:33:57 GMT -8
Oslo UW Club 1954 There were not the same suply of military surplus as in the states but there were some stuff salvaged from plane wrecks during the war. So instead of hunting for the parts With the correct part numbers they had to use wathewer they could find. I remember Reading something about O2 tanks from a Spitfighter and some kitchenware. As you can see in the Picture at least two of them are wearing rebreathers. The most obvious is the one to the left. Its hard to find good photographs of the gear unfortunately.
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reidar
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Post by reidar on Jun 23, 2018 12:44:22 GMT -8
My father gave me one of his old Norwegian diving books today. In the Chapter about how it all started I found the story about the Spitfire/Kitchen aparatus and a good Picture. The diver with the mentioned aparatus to the left. The second stage Integrated in the mask are described as two butter melters put together With a rubber menbrane in between. The diver on the right With a rebreather.
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Post by pabloo on Jan 13, 2024 9:30:10 GMT -8
Hello gentelman If you are interested I will add an article "The History of Polish Diving Equipment"...photos, data, diagrams. We have all of them in Scuba Museum in Warsaw. Regards Pawel
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 13, 2024 11:30:03 GMT -8
Wow, we would love to see your article and photos.
Thanks,
John
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Post by antique diver on Jan 13, 2024 11:57:00 GMT -8
That is a nice museum collection. Thank you for posting all that, and I look forward to seeing more related photos and information.
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Post by broxton coalition on Jan 13, 2024 12:47:07 GMT -8
Ditto what the old barnacle antique diver says!!! thank you for the pics and links to this great vintage site/display. always great to see more vintage diving museums from Europe!
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Post by pabloo on Jan 13, 2024 16:19:46 GMT -8
OK, I need a little time to complete all materials. See you soon Pawel
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Jan 14, 2024 4:30:37 GMT -8
I would very be interested to see any information you might have about Polish underwater swimming equipment other than scuba too. A half-dozen years ago, I compiled a Scubaboard thread entitled Basic gear from the Polish People's Republic. The Muzeum Nurkowania Warszawa (Warsaw Diving Museum) website proved to be a rich source of data back then. I later purchased a copy of Karina Kowalska's excellent book Sprzęt nurkowy w Polsce 1945-1989 (above), which the Warsaw Diving Museum published and whose title translates to "Diving equipment in Poland 1945-1989". This volume was a great asset to my research on mid-twentieth-century East European diving equipment history. DRW
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Post by pabloo on Jan 14, 2024 6:58:15 GMT -8
I would very be interested to see any information you might have about Polish underwater swimming equipment other than scuba too. A half-dozen years ago, I compiled a Scubaboard thread entitled Basic gear from the Polish People's Republic. The Muzeum Nurkowania Warszawa (Warsaw Diving Museum) website proved to be a rich source of data back then. I later purchased a copy of Karina Kowalska's excellent book Sprzęt nurkowy w Polsce 1945-1989 (above), which the Warsaw Diving Museum published and whose title translates to "Diving equipment in Poland 1945-1989". This volume was a great asset to my research on mid-twentieth-century East European diving equipment history. DRW Hello David There is "all-in-one info" about diving equipment used in Poland from 1945...Karina makes exscelent job with this book. I think that most of historical- technical info and photos which I will include will be similar / same But maybe you will find something interesting what was not on the Karina's bookl...I hope )) With regards Pawel
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Post by vance on Jan 14, 2024 7:09:44 GMT -8
So um, would there be any dis/advantage having the air-horns so close together? JB (Referring to the Mares Air King 61 regulators on page 3 of this thread) It might be that it was simply easier to stamp the air channels in the top cans that way. It doesn’t seem like it serves any functional purpose. These regulators don’t route exhaust out on top of the diaphragm (bottom can side) like most regs of the time. Intake and exhaust air are mixed and exhaust exits from a mushroom valve in the top can! With this configuration, both hoses would be both demand and exhaust in the absence of non-return valves. Seems like the volume of carbon dioxide rebreathing would be a problem.
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Post by pabloo on Jan 14, 2024 7:20:50 GMT -8
As the begininng about eng Jan Hiszpanski... ...In the mid of 1950' at ZMP in Gdansk engineers were working on a new product which required underwater experiments and obtained new scuba gear from Jacques Cousteau. Jan’s fascination with man’s ability to “become a fish” and being a diving enthusiast himself led him to initiate the production of independent diving apparatuses – the first in Poland. He developed a patent and was the leading designer of diving equipment and head of the diving section of the Plant. His diving equipment was used widely throughout Poland by the Navy, Ship Rescue, Marine Station of the Polish Academy of Sciences, diving clubs, and others. He also developed a similar breathing apparatus for the Fire Department, which they used in difficult fire rescue operations. He wrote a book and many publications about his invention and was paid well for his accomplishments, but because he refused to join the Communist Party, he knew he could never attain the career goals he aspired to in Poland. In 1967, the Polish government would not allow his family to leave for the United States, and only granted visas for him and his wife. Their 5-year-old daughter was forced to stay behind as collateral. With limited English, he took a job as a draftsman in an architectural firm, but soon found a better job, as he was always searching for better opportunities. He did PhD studies at the Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago and UCLA. He completed his MBA at UCLA and continued designing diving equipment for the company Dacor in Chicago... I am very happy that polish engineer was a "part" of Dacor company but it's only info about that which I found. There is one of his ideas...maybe someone saw something like this in reality - it was never produced in Poland Regards Pawel
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Jan 14, 2024 7:23:11 GMT -8
I would very be interested to see any information you might have about Polish underwater swimming equipment other than scuba too. A half-dozen years ago, I compiled a Scubaboard thread entitled Basic gear from the Polish People's Republic. The Muzeum Nurkowania Warszawa (Warsaw Diving Museum) website proved to be a rich source of data back then. I later purchased a copy of Karina Kowalska's excellent book Sprzęt nurkowy w Polsce 1945-1989 (above), which the Warsaw Diving Museum published and whose title translates to "Diving equipment in Poland 1945-1989". This volume was a great asset to my research on mid-twentieth-century East European diving equipment history. DRW Hello David There is "all-in-one info" about diving equipment used in Poland from 1945...Karina makes exscelent job with this book. I think that most of historical- technical info and photos which I will include will be similar / same But maybe you will find something interesting what was not on the Karina's bookl...I hope )) With regards Pawel Whether anything you post will be similar to, or the same as, whatever is available in Karina's book does not matter, Pawel. All information and illustrations of Polish diving equipment are likely to be unfamiliar to everybody on this forum. Please go ahead and post anything you have in the way of data or images!
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Post by pabloo on Jan 14, 2024 11:09:45 GMT -8
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Post by antique diver on Jan 14, 2024 12:49:50 GMT -8
Ditto what the old barnacle antique diver says!!! thank you for the pics and links to this great vintage site/display. always great to see more vintage diving museums from Europe! Ouch! Hey Vintage Mike, I've never been called an "old barnacle" before! Haha... Probably appropriate... I like it
(I'll have you know that I just turned 50, only 28 years ago)
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Jan 15, 2024 5:19:59 GMT -8
"Roger, Wilco" Dave Apropos to your article there is my personal MURENA set RAYA fins with mask & snorkel... ... Regards Pawel Pawel: Like the Raja fins above, were the Murena mask, snorkel and fins all manufactured by the Stomil rubber goods plant in Grudziądz? I ask because Karina's book says "Płetwy kaloszowe Murena produkowane przez firmę Hewea z Grudziądza" (Murena full-foot fins manufactured by the Hewea company from Grudziądz). Was the Hewea company part of Stomil? Karina mentions the Murena mask too: "Maska Murena (typ Pinocchio) produkowana przez Spółdzielnię Rzemieślniczą z Zielonki koło Warszawy" (Murena mask (Pinocchio type) produced by Crafts Cooperative from Zielonka near Warsaw). Does this mean that the Murena mask was manufactured elsewhere? She also writes: "W 1988 r. fajki wraz z maskami produkowała pod nazwą Murena Spółdzielnia Rzemieślnicza Zielonka, z Zielonki koło Warszawy" (In 1988, snorkels and masks were produced under the name of Murena by Zielonka Crafts Cooperative in Zielonka near Warsaw). This suggests that Murena masks and snorkels were made in Zielonka, while Murena fins were made in Grudziądz. DRW
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