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Post by nikeajax on Apr 1, 2019 12:52:52 GMT -8
And that was because NASCAR has always pandered to Chevrolet-- YAAAAAAAAAAWWWN!But the funniest one was the Buick Grand National, with its turbo charged V6. It was the black car that not only could, but did humiliate Chevrolet's flagship Corvette: legend has it that that is the reason why they stopped making them Mark, sorry, I wouldn't have said anything, but no one's really posting anything on here: we need to keep the bubbles flowing otherwise they'll think we're dead... JB
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 1, 2019 15:57:53 GMT -8
Well, I was going to report on the Spoiler fins after taking them to the pool today. But in a first for me in all my years of diving, I broke both straps on these fins trying to put them on this morning. So if you are getting them, realize that these fin straps may look okay, but be ready to break on you at the most inopportune time. Luckily, I had my pair of Force Fins with me too, and completed my swim this morning with them.
John
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 1, 2019 17:48:31 GMT -8
I've already ordered a replacement pair of straps for my Dacor Turbo II fins, will do the same for these. This is SOP when ever I buy a pair of "new" fins. Mark
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 2, 2019 12:16:03 GMT -8
Okay, my Spoiler fins are now back in service with new straps. I also went out to the shed and pulled out my USD Rocket Fins. So tomorrow (today was a bicycle ride day) I'll be back in the pool, and have a head-to-head competition with these fins. Over a 25 yard pool, we'll see the yards per stroke of each of these fins.
John
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Post by SeaRat on Apr 3, 2019 12:48:02 GMT -8
I'm out of the water, and have tested both the USD Spoiler and USD Rocket fins this morning. Here's the results:
# of Kicks per 25 yards Swim Stroke.....Spoiler..................Rocket Flutter Kick..........16..........................16 Dolphin kick.........20.........................20
The kicks were the same for both fins. I swam 200 yards with the fins, and for the flutter kick I counted each time my right foot descended. For the dolphin kick, it was for each kick.
Now, while the fins propulsion was the same, the comfort level was not; the Spoiler fin was awful, causing a lot of pressure on the top of my toes. I have red marks on the top of two of my middle toes. So the Spoiler fins are toe-cruncher fins, and are not fun to have on my feet (I was wearing regular socks for this test).
So, what to do with my Spoiler fins. I can either sell or give them away to one of you (I have the original box too), or convert them to my Scoop Fin design, which may help them out a lot. I will not be swimming my Spoiler fins until they have been modified, as they basically are not at all comfortable for me.
John
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Post by snark3 on Apr 3, 2019 14:17:23 GMT -8
I'm out of the water, and have tested both the USD Spoiler and USD Rocket fins this morning. Here's the results: # of Kicks per 25 yards Swim Stroke.....Spoiler..................Rocket Flutter Kick..........16..........................16 Dolphin kick.........20.........................20 The kicks were the same for both fins. I swam 200 yards with the fins, and for the flutter kick I counted each time my right foot descended. For the dolphin kick, it was for each kick. Now, while the fins propulsion was the same, the comfort level was not; the Spoiler fin was awful, causing a lot of pressure on the top of my toes. I have red marks on the top of two of my middle toes. So the Spoiler fins are toe-cruncher fins, and are not fun to have on my feet (I was wearing regular socks for this test). So, what to do with my Spoiler fins. I can either sell or give them away to one of you (I have the original box too), or convert them to my Scoop Fin design, which may help them out a lot. I will not be swimming my Spoiler fins until they have been modified, as they basically are not at all comfortable for me. John I bought a set of US Divers "Blades" to replace my Spoilers. I love the "Blades". I have since picked up a set of USD rockets for use when I dive vintage. The spoilers are now "modern art"
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 3, 2019 16:44:06 GMT -8
Well I got the Spoilers today... Probably will not dive them much, but just wanted them since I have not seen the before last week. See how I like them? They might just be hanging off a hook on the wall? See how they work for me? Mark
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 5, 2019 18:41:32 GMT -8
Here they are... I'll try and clean them up a bit more. Need to get straps and give them a test. Mark
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 5, 2019 20:13:08 GMT -8
Since these came out in the early 1970's, I'm going to call these my "Watergate Water Walkers"!!! LOL!!! Mark
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Post by Aquala1 on Apr 6, 2019 20:24:28 GMT -8
Mark, those look great and I’m sure they’ll work just fine. In all honesty, I find performance differences in non-split fins negligible for single tank diving under mild to moderate conditions. On a standard reef dive, I can’t really tell the difference between an XL (long blade) Scubapro Jetfin, and an old-school Scubapro full foot fin. The only time a difference could be detected, would be if I were diving doubles in a current. Other than that, a rigid blade is a rigid blade...it all depends on how you kick it.
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 7, 2019 4:31:27 GMT -8
Honestly...I have a difficult time telling the minute differences between fins 99% of the time. Unless a fin is "in my face BAD"...I would not notice. These Spoiler Fins were just so..."I've never seen or heard of them before, so I had to have them". Looking forward to diving them.
One fin that surprised me in a good way was my Oceanways "Profeesional" copy of the Cressi/Healthways "Rondine" full foot fins. Might not be my first choice if I ever get to do serious Ocean dives on a wreck or with a group of Tech Divers...but fun for "Soul Diving", which is 99% of my diving.
Been getting into fins here lately... Would love to get a pair of Dacor Turbo Fins ("Originals") now in the future, and maybe a set of US Divers "Rocket" Fins, but those seem to be easy to find and can wait till later.
Now I need to find some 60's-70's era masks in useable shape that fit!!! Mark
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Post by nikeajax on Apr 7, 2019 8:44:48 GMT -8
Mark, the only thing that matters is that you like 'em, and enjoy using them. That's the secret of learning too: just having fun and experimenting, oh and finding out for yourself why things are JB
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Post by Aquala1 on Apr 9, 2019 19:33:59 GMT -8
Honestly...I have a difficult time telling the minute differences between fins 99% of the time. Unless a fin is "in my face BAD"...I would not notice. These Spoiler Fins were just so..."I've never seen or heard of them before, so I had to have them". Looking forward to diving them. One fin that surprised me in a good way was my Oceanways "Profeesional" copy of the Cressi/Healthways "Rondine" full foot fins. Might not be my first choice if I ever get to do serious Ocean dives on a wreck or with a group of Tech Divers...but fun for "Soul Diving", which is 99% of my diving. Been getting into fins here lately... Would love to get a pair of Dacor Turbo Fins ("Originals") now in the future, and maybe a set of US Divers "Rocket" Fins, but those seem to be easy to find and can wait till later. Now I need to find some 60's-70's era masks in useable shape that fit!!! Mark Mark, the Oceanways are similar to my Scubapro full foots, and I’ve dove my full foots drift diving in Cozumel and wall diving in Cayman. I like the simplicity of these little fins for warm water, boat diving. Slip them on, slip them off, no boots to mess with...they’re really great.
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Post by tomcatpc on Apr 10, 2019 3:07:53 GMT -8
Plus the Oceanways "Pseudo-Rondines" really don't take up much room. That might be a plus if I ever get to actually dive outside of Ohio in the coming decades?! Mark
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Apr 10, 2019 7:04:59 GMT -8
Mark, the Oceanways are similar to my Scubapro full foots, and I’ve dove my full foots drift diving in Cozumel and wall diving in Cayman. I like the simplicity of these little fins for warm water, boat diving. Slip them on, slip them off, no boots to mess with...they’re really great. The original Scubapro full-foots have an interesting history, Ty. When the company was launched in the early 1960s, imported Cressi Rondines were the only full-foots in its catalogue. Its predecessor Healthways was the sole distributor of Cressi products in the USA. In 1964, Scubapro replaced the Cressi Rondine with its own full-foot fin: The above courtesy Bryan Pennington's catalogue collection at Vintage Double Hose. The image shows the fins with "fixe-palmes", or fin keepers, devices invented by the French diving equipment company Beuchat, whose open-heel Jetfins first appeared in Scubapro's 1965 catalogue. The Scubapro full-foot fins weren't imported Beuchat fins, however. The closest lookalikes for these fins are Marin Flottantes, designed in Nice on the French Riviera: S.F.A.C.E.M. (French: Société de Fabrication d'Articles de Chasse d’Exploitation Sous-Marine; English: Company manufacturing hunting articles for underwater use) made Marin brand spearfishing gear at 34, rue Ribotti in the city of Nice on the French Riviera. The company, which was headed by Roland Forjot, was in the habit of making basic equipment for other firms. The business was sold to Scubapro in 1977, fuelling the concern of other French diving equipment manufacturers about creeping globalisation. The Scubapro full-foot fin remained in the Scubapro catalogue for many decades: It was marketed latterly as a resort fin for warm-water snorkelling and diving. A few years ago Scubapro replaced these US-manufactured fins with a Taiwan design shared with other western diving equipment companies: Both the original and the replacement fins are excellent-quality products that I have used in sea snorkelling.
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