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Post by nikeajax on Jul 28, 2017 8:04:16 GMT -8
Well put Mr. Globetrotter! Yes, that was my intent exactly... I looked at it yesterday and the warpage seems to be coming out nicely, but it might take a little more time.
JB
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Post by vance on Sept 30, 2017 11:04:56 GMT -8
I installed the JB Snorklejet in one of my leftover Scubas. It feels like it delivers a good amount of air! Installing it over the valve body under the levers does take some tension out of the plunger (nylon seat) spring, but I took a lot more away from the Misuba Rev1 when I installed a short plunger in the long valve body. I've yet to find out if it will freeflow below 20ft. I'll try to test both regs in Monterey on the Oct 14/15th weekend vintage meet!
(I'm considering renaming the Misuba Rev1 to the Scubistral Rev1. I dunno....)
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 30, 2017 17:32:52 GMT -8
Phil, I don't see how it could take any tension from the plunger: it's on the opposite side! It should do the same thing as loosening the adjusting screw by .025 height... Am I missing something entirely in my thinking? Honestly, I couldn't tell much difference between the Goldie and the modified Deluxe: much of the blast from the Goldie's venturi is dampened by the convolutions in the hose. If the air were traveling in an unimpeded path there's no doubt that the Goldie would have more strength behind it, but my Snorkeljet has a much larger opening and should be moving more air: no?   Sincerly, Confused in the East Bay  |
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Post by vance on Oct 1, 2017 10:14:42 GMT -8
Phil, I don't see how it could take any tension from the plunger: it's on the opposite side! It should do the same thing as loosening the adjusting screw by .025 height... Am I missing something entirely in my thinking? Honestly, I couldn't tell much difference between the Goldie and the modified Deluxe: much of the blast from the Goldie's venturi is dampened by the convolutions in the hose. If the air were traveling in an unimpeded path there's no doubt that the Goldie would have more strength behind it, but my Snorkeljet has a much larger opening and should be moving more air: no? Sincerly, Confused in the East Bay Dear Confused, I believe you are correct and have cause for confusion. The added sheet metal merely raises the lever assembly, and the adjuster screw is lowered to contact the needle. So no lessening of spring tension. It does make the lever a tiny bit closer to the diaphragm, but that doesn't seem to affect anything. Just goes to show one should engage brain before opening mouth! As to the amount of air being moved directly into the hose, there is definitely and noticeably more volume with the Snorkeljet than without. I really want to test the difference in the water! Inhalation seems to be disproportionately easier than exhalation. |
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Post by nikeajax on Oct 1, 2017 16:08:58 GMT -8
Phil, I am VERY EAGER to get your input/feedback  JB |
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Post by nikeajax on Oct 19, 2017 12:40:10 GMT -8
Ummmmm-- YIKES! OK, check out these new treasures for my HW-gear. First, an original diaphragm for the Scuba model-A: it's all rubber, no nylon:  I also traded Phil the snorkeljet I made for a duckbill. A white/cream mouthpiece for my Divair model E/F I need to get a metal clamp for it now:  Very fun, eh? JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Oct 19, 2017 14:32:59 GMT -8
Phil, I don't see how it could take any tension from the plunger: it's on the opposite side! It should do the same thing as loosening the adjusting screw by .025 height... Am I missing something entirely in my thinking? Honestly, I couldn't tell much difference between the Goldie and the modified Deluxe: much of the blast from the Goldie's venturi is dampened by the convolutions in the hose. If the air were traveling in an unimpeded path there's no doubt that the Goldie would have more strength behind it, but my Snorkeljet has a much larger opening and should be moving more air: no? Sincerly, Confused in the East Bay Dear Confused, I believe you are correct and have cause for confusion. The added sheet metal merely raises the lever assembly, and the adjuster screw is lowered to contact the needle. So no lessening of spring tension. It does make the lever a tiny bit closer to the diaphragm, but that doesn't seem to affect anything. Just goes to show one should engage brain before opening mouth! As to the amount of air being moved directly into the hose, there is definitely and noticeably more volume with the Snorkeljet than without. I really want to test the difference in the water! Inhalation seems to be disproportionately easier than exhalation. Okay, I'm going to chime it here a bit. First, Phil now has my Healthways mouthpieces, and so he can experiment with them as I have over the years. Second, about the Gold Label (Goldie) Venturi; it's just a bit different than it looks. If you take a drill bit and fit it into the venturi (one that just fits), you will see that the air is not directed exactly the way the Venturi nozzle points. It actually hits the corrugations of the hose on the inside of the turn, which may increase the flow through the hose, but it also increases the turbulence. In contrast, the Venturi of the USD Mistral is pointed directly down the hose, with two small holes which put air into the can too. Fred Roberts said that the USD Mistral Venturi nozzle was really great; he didn't say that about the Healthways Goldie Venturi. The other thing about the Goldie is that the hoses were relatively short, and the mouthpiece small. I experimented with taking the entire wagon wheel out of the Healthways mouthpiece, and found that even with the deflector plate there was some blow-by into the exhaust. I also experimented with simply removing the intake mushroom, and found that there was still some blow-by. Only by having both mushrooms in place, and the deflector plate, would I get the inhalation without the blow-by. But I did not like the silicone mushroom valve (newer version) in the intake line, so I went with the older style neoprene one on the intake side, and the silicone one in the exhaust. 'Just thought I'd add a bit to this discussion. I haven't used Jaybird's adaptation, but do like the smoothness of the original Healthways Scuba regulator. I in addition now have my highly modified Healthways Hybrid (Goldie innards with the original body/exhaust system), which I really like. Here are some photos of this regulator:  This photo shows the modified duckbill, which is a backup to the exhaust diaphragm and simply acts to keep water out of the exhaust hose in a vertical, head-down position.  This shows the regulator equipped with a DSV mouthpiece on super-flex hoses. This is a great way to use this regulator, but I have since replaced it with super-flex hoses on a Healthways Hope-Page mouthpiece.  This is the unit mounted on a tank. Note how low-profile this box is, and how the internal yolk keeps it from tangling things like fishing line (my nemesis). John |
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Post by vance on Nov 8, 2017 21:00:06 GMT -8
Here's some pics of my faux 1962 Deluxe. It was displayed at the Monterey get together in October, but I don't think many caught it. A model like this was shown in, I believe, the 1962 Healthways catalog but never produced (or maybe never sold).   
This one has the venturi valve and the proper baffled mouthpiece as well as having the internal yoke knob, so it is essentially a GL in the Deluxe cans as Healthways was going to do. The baffle in the mouthpiece was added, along with some long slotted wagonwheels, to keep the venturi boosted air from simply going down the exhaust hose. The air was deflected up into the mouthpiece by a plastic baffle disk. I personally don't love the internal yoke screw, as it can be difficult to loosen on the tank valve. It's supposed to keep it from tangling in kelp and the like. |
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 9, 2017 8:00:53 GMT -8
Oh, but they look totally boss! Here's the lineup of can profiles:  And what was in the HW catalog:  The Goldie's lower can has tapered sides and is recessed about 1/8" so that the valve body can nestle deeper. JB |
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Post by vance on Nov 9, 2017 9:19:24 GMT -8
Thanks for reposting that page, JB! In scrutinizing the pictures and the ad description, I'm seeing my Deluxe is all wrong. It looks like the Model 62 is a GL with a Deluxe label. I had the impression that it was a Deluxe with the new valve parts. They must have decided to change the label and name before releasing them. Does anyone know about the history here? They mention designing the can flanges so the top box holds the diaphragm in place when assembling it. This was a real improvement. Holding the cans in place while getting the clamp on can be a pain with the scuba and the Deluxe. They also mention using heavier material for the cans. Both of these things are true on the GL but not the Deluxe. Also, the Deluxe is a great wide thing, but the GL is sleeker, and the Model 62 appears to have the GL profile. All right, so my "Model 62" is just GL guts in a Deluxe can.  Oh well. This might have been posted before, but check out this movie with blue hose Scubas with Hope Pages and Healthways tanks being used if interested! www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOIT8VVVgXw |
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 9, 2017 10:10:40 GMT -8
Did'ja notice the white mouthpiece, huh, huh, huh! Also, what the heck kinda makeup must she have wearing to still look that great after swimming  Yeah, I know,we're not supposed to ask those questions, just suspend our disbelief  Jaybird EDIT: When they're both diving, the film is reversed: the HW logos are backwards on the tanks and on the wrong side on the wet suit |
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Post by vance on Nov 9, 2017 11:52:36 GMT -8
I thought I noticed that the Healthways stickers read backwards. Yeah, your white mouthpiece is featured, too!
They did a transfer of the film to Blueray. I wonder if that's where the footage got reversed? This movie is called "September Storm", and was a 3D movie. It's available on Amazon.
I thought the orange fish was presented as menacing! Funny!
I also laughed when the guys on the boat had their little aside about "Does SHE come with the boat charter?" When she asks what they were laughing about, one of the men says "It's a private joke, but I assure you it was complimentary." That "compliment" would get you kicked in the nuts these days!
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Post by SeaRat on Nov 9, 2017 11:55:14 GMT -8
Phil, Thanks for that link. I'm wondering whether the woman was Ester Williams, as I believe she was a competitive diver early in her life. The scenes of the Healthways SCUBA being used underwater were great. There was a pretty good current in the cave too. That was exactly what my first diver regulator was, a Healthways SCUBA with Hope-Page mouthpiece and blue hoses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_WilliamsNope, not Ester Williams, but her it is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_DruJohn |
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Post by vance on Nov 9, 2017 12:05:28 GMT -8
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Post by vance on Nov 9, 2017 16:50:08 GMT -8
I had an interesting week, this week. I'm heavily into finishing my deck, and my wife is impatient for results. Don't blame her: it's been since June. But, there's extenuating circumstances!! I'm retired! I'm working alone! I have other interests!
The thing is 25 feet off the ground, and I had to do everything hanging off the edge and doing the high steel walk, balancing on pieces of 2x6. It's 90% done. But, it's not DONE.
So my friend, who lives in Monterey, asked me on Tuesday to come down Wednesday to play beach petanque 'cause there's a negative tide. Oh, yeah. I'm in. But, the deck....?
Whatever. So, I'm thinking, I'll bring some gear? Maybe on the way, I'll go to the dive shop that had a pretty good deal on a 2XL wetsuit? I do, it fits, I buy.
Upshot: Wetsuit fits pretty well and did the trick. The water was the best I ever saw in Monterey: 20 ft vis, almost no swell, and I got in. I brought my GL, and the Scubair rig on the Y valve, and after numerous ins and outs to get weights and everything set up, I got in an unbelievable solo dive in the kelp forest. Whoohoo! My only regret is I didn't take my GoPro in for some kelp forest footage.
Crabby had invited me down earlier to dive, but my stuff was not ready, so I declined. But then, things came together in a hurry, I made some decisions, and Bob's your uncle! Let's do it Crabby!
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Oh well. 
Yeah, I know,we're not supposed to ask those questions, just suspend our disbelief 
