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Post by trapezus on Nov 21, 2016 3:48:11 GMT -8
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 21, 2016 12:11:42 GMT -8
 Hmmm, maybe closer to Wally Schirra...  Ol' Jackie Custard (JYC) would be a closer fit to Mr. Gagarin  JB |
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Post by surflung on Nov 22, 2016 6:38:50 GMT -8
 - It was Wesly and Falco who did the first undersea habitat, living underwater with the Conshelf I expedition. I remember the name and face of Claude Wesly from the many photos in my copy of "World Without Sun" the book about Conshelf II. I think he was one of the two "Black Suit" divers who spent a week at 100 feet deep in the "Deep Cabin". If I remember correctly. Those guys breathed a Helium/O2 mix and saturated at 100 feet. From which they are said to have dove down to 400 feet and back (to 100 feet) without decompression... Pioneers pushing the limits and risking their lives when saturation diving was still new science. - An amazing man living in amazing times. Rest in Peace Claude Wesly. |
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Post by trapezus on Nov 22, 2016 8:28:19 GMT -8
Thank you Mr. Brown.The definition of gagarin is not mine ,It is the definition of French authorities and I agree too.
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 22, 2016 10:08:19 GMT -8
Just having a bit of fun is all: I really like early space history!  So by this logic, if Falco and Wesly are Gagarin and Titov, Dumas and Cousteau are more like the fruit flies; as they were the first living creatures launched into space in 1947 from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico.  JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Nov 22, 2016 13:48:54 GMT -8
I watched the Conshelf experiments on TV and read about them in National Geographic before the book and film (which I saw in New York when it first came out) World Without Sun was released. I for a very long time wanted to put together a set of the quad-aqualung cylinders, as it seemed pretty ideal fitting around the body as it does.
Claud Wesly was one of the pioneers who inspired me to continue in diving, and later to become a USAF pararescueman. Rest in Peace, Aquanaut, as you have earned it and all of our respect.
Now, as to the comparisons to the astronauts, remember that this was a time when the astronauts were up only for a very short time, whereas the aquanauts were down for a very long time (weeks verses days). One of the scenes from World Without Sun that I remember was when the dark suits were very deep, and ran out of air. Two silver-suited aquanauts came down with spare quad tanks for them, and they took off their regulators from the set out-of-air and put their Mistrals back on the new set, underwater. I don't think I've ever seen that repeated, and they had to do it that way because they were in full-face masks with communications gear. Check from minute 54 of World Without Sun:
John
PS: this was also the introduction of Jet Fins to the world.
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 22, 2016 13:55:27 GMT -8
Just to be a brat: I can't decide if Émile Gagnan is Robert H. Goddard, or Wernher von Braun... JB |
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So by this logic, if Falco and Wesly are Gagarin and Titov, Dumas and Cousteau are more like the fruit flies; as they were the first living creatures launched into space in 1947 from White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. 
