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Post by SeaRat on Nov 29, 2020 16:44:00 GMT -8
This site features videos from 1959 and from the 1990s of the Warm Mineral Springs Underwater Archaeological Project. Some of those from 1959 were shot by Col. Bill Royal, and show divers using the regulator of the time (DA Aqualung, Aquamaster, Jet Air and even the U.S. Divers Company first single hose regulator, the Aquamatic). www.warmmineral.com/wms/wmsvideo.htmlThe skull that was found turned out to be the oldest at that time indiginous people skull ever, at somewhere around 10,000 years ago. This was apparently a burial site for native people during that time. I am currently writing about my experiences on this project. I spent two months diving on this project in 1975, and it is one chapter of my book. So I found this site while doing more research on the Warm Mineral Springs Underwater Archaeological Project. I'll post more here later. John |
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Post by nikeajax on Nov 30, 2020 10:30:42 GMT -8
HOLY (expletive deleted)!!!!!!! Even the sight of seeing that guy cut through that skull with a saw made me cringe  I'm glad that they have things like CT-scaners that don't destroy whatever it is they are looking at/into/through. I'm very fascinated by paleo-America: it's speculated that humans were in the Americas long before the fossil shows which is thought to be 13,000 YA (years ago). As one theory goes, when the seas were lower people traveled and lived along the coast lines: any historical evidence of this is gone due to the sea levels rising. What makes the fossil record unreliable for giving better dates is that we can only use what has been found. More often bones were eaten by animals: rodents, like rats, mice and yes, squirrels too eat bones for their calcium content. The really cool thing about science is that we figure out things like radioactive decay: if something is older than the half-life of things like Carbon-14 which we find in most hominid bones, we can look for other radioactive elements: this is how we date things that are millions of years old like dinosaur bones. JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Dec 2, 2020 17:49:41 GMT -8
I just this week have written Mr. Curt Bowen, who is maintaining an archieve of the Warm Mineral Springs Underwater Archaeological Project. I sent him a PDF of the paper I wrote upon getting back to Oregon State University to gain credit for "Reading and Conference" for the three months I took off to go to the Florida project. That PDF is now located at: www.warmmineral.com/wms/wmspdf/Safety%20Measures%20at%20WMS001.pdfYou can see all the archieves here: www.warmmineral.com/wms/wmsarchive.html Warm Mineral Springs002 by John Ratliff, on Flickr Here is a photo of me (center) with Larry Murphy and Bill Spensor in Warm Mineral Springs. The reason for that helmet was that the previous December my dive buddy and I had been picked up by the U.S. Coast Guard after spending 3+ hours bobbing around in an angry Pacific Ocean off Otter Crest, Oregon. We had been rolled by a 20 foot or so wave, and could not get back to shore because of the increased seas. Photo by Jim McKeon  Warm Mineral Springs diver by John Ratliff, on Flickr This diver, either Toni Carrel or Cathy Tarasovic, as she is videoing the area of interest in Warm Mineral Springs. We were probably at the 65 foot level, or shallower. John |
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Post by nikeajax on Dec 3, 2020 8:45:25 GMT -8
...The reason for that helmet was that the previous December my dive buddy and I had been picked up by the U.S. Coast Guard after spending 3+ hours bobbing around in an angry Pacific Ocean off Otter Crest, Oregon. We had been rolled by a 20 foot or so wave, and could not get back to shore because of the increased seas... John I'm really tired from not sleeping at all well last night, so perhaps I missed something, but, you didn't tell us why exactly you were wearing your helmet. Does the person on the right have really big tanks, or is that just me? Thanks for sharing with us John  JB |
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Post by nikeajax on Dec 3, 2020 9:59:37 GMT -8
OK John, here's one for ya: Q: What's Annapolis? A: When someone swipes a piece of your fruit (an-apple-less) Grooooaaan!  I'm here all week folks, try the salmon... JB |
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Post by SeaRat on Dec 3, 2020 10:31:19 GMT -8
...The reason for that helmet was that the previous December my dive buddy and I had been picked up by the U.S. Coast Guard after spending 3+ hours bobbing around in an angry Pacific Ocean off Otter Crest, Oregon. We had been rolled by a 20 foot or so wave, and could not get back to shore because of the increased seas... John I'm really tired from not sleeping at all well last night, so perhaps I missed something, but, you didn't tell us why exactly you were wearing your helmet.Does the person on the right have really big tanks, or is that just me?Thanks for sharing with us John JB Well, it was a "comfort" thing; I had just a few months before been picked up by the U.S. Coast Guard because they saw that helmet. Here's what it looked like:  Rocky Creek With Bruce by John Ratliff, on Flickr Bruce and I were headed out. Note that we both have our helmets on.  Rocky Creek3a by John Ratliff, on Flickr While we were out, the conditions changed from waves of about 3-5 feet to waves of 15-20 feet.  Rocky Creek2 by John Ratliff, on Flickr After we got rolled by a wave coming back in after aborting the dive, our girl friends snapped this photo. Note Bruce does not have his helmet (which was held on by velcro) on his head. He is also missing his new Nikonos camera. We are regrouping, about to drop weight belts, and getting ready to spend 3+ hours in the water trying to figure out how to get back to shore. The U.S. Coast Guard responded to our girl friends' call for help, and picked us up. They were really happy to have two live people to pick up, as were we. We both had helmets on because getting out on those rocks was somewhat hazardous in the waves. We hadn't figured on waves of that size though. Mine was a whitewater kayaker's helmet. Warm Mineral Springs002 by John Ratliff, on Flickr Now, about the diver on the right, he's wearing twin 100 cubic foot tanks for his dive to 200 or so feet in Warm Mineral Springs. The diver on the left is wearing twin 80s. Also, that was a very unique and expensive underwater video camera, which had a different wavelength light which was supposed to show more in turbulent waters on the screen. John |
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Post by nikeajax on Dec 3, 2020 11:13:30 GMT -8
Everything about the diver on the right looks totally oversized! That's not a Kirby-Morgan, but it does look like it's a full face mask: was there some sort of VOX then too?
JB
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Post by SeaRat on Dec 3, 2020 11:32:15 GMT -8
Everything about the diver on the right looks totally oversized! That's not a Kirby-Morgan, but it does look like it's a full face mask: was there some sort of VOX then too? JB Larry Murphy is/was a big guy. He is in a KMB-9 mask, I think. www.kirbymorgan.com/company/history I'm not sure what you're asking about, "VOX,"? John |
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Post by nikeajax on Dec 3, 2020 11:46:52 GMT -8
Voice Operated eXchange: hands free talking. Was he talking to the surface? If not what wasn't he using a regular scuba?
JB
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Post by Seahuntjerry on Dec 4, 2020 12:54:13 GMT -8
Hi John,
You must have read the story about finding intact brain tissue in that skull. It was wriitten up in an Nasds dive magazine. There was also a Seahunt episode similiar to this story.
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Post by nikeajax on Dec 4, 2020 18:48:50 GMT -8
Jerry, thanks for mentioning this: very cool!!!!! I wonder if they were able to extrapolate any information from that DNA? I was watching a show where they were able to retrieve good, uncontaminated, DNA from Neanderthal bones: evidently they were redheads!
JB
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Post by SeaRat on Dec 4, 2020 23:08:54 GMT -8
I just yèsterday watched the half-hour video interview with Dr. Euginie Clark. You can access this video here: www.warmmineral.com/wms/wmsvideo.htmlShe has some amazing stories to tell. John |
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I'm glad that they have things like CT-scaners that don't destroy whatever it is they are looking at/into/through.
