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Post by Fibonacci on Oct 14, 2023 11:54:59 GMT -8
Thanks for going to such trouble Fred, really useful information!
So if a co-moulded poppet was supplied with a new smaller diameter bush it should fit both old and new style bodies?
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Post by spirou on Oct 14, 2023 12:52:35 GMT -8
Thanks for going to such trouble Fred, really useful information! So if a co-moulded poppet was supplied with a new smaller diameter bush it should fit both old and new style bodies? Hello Good question, on the photos I try to show the difference between the first peacok model, and the silver, with there own LP seat. So I must try, to cross the LP seat, because if you look the second stage crow in the body they are not the same. I think that I finish the early peacock tomorrow, I will try both seat. Cheer's Fred |
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Post by vance on Oct 15, 2023 17:49:34 GMT -8
Thanks for going to such trouble Fred, really useful information! So if a co-moulded poppet was supplied with a new smaller diameter bush it should fit both old and new style bodies? You mean a larger diameter bush over the co-molded poppet stem? |
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Post by Fibonacci on Oct 15, 2023 18:09:47 GMT -8
No I mean re-create the new style smaller diameter guide bush if it will fit into the old style body recess. The co-moulded poppet would then come as a replacement kit with the bush (LHS)  Snark LP seat new vs old by fibonacci101, on Flickr |
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Post by vance on Oct 15, 2023 18:52:52 GMT -8
Got it. The cover/guides are identical except the hole diameter. Correction: At least some of the covers are different diameters.
It might make sense to make two poppets: one a standard co-molded, and another co-molded with a thicker post.
Seems like it'd be easier to make than the cover/guide? No plating needed.
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Post by vance on Oct 15, 2023 18:55:05 GMT -8
Thanks for going to such trouble Fred, really useful information! So if a co-moulded poppet was supplied with a new smaller diameter bush it should fit both old and new style bodies? Hello Good question, on the photos I try to show the difference between the first peacok model, and the silver, with there own LP seat. So I must try, to cross the LP seat, because if you look the second stage crow in the body they are not the same. I think that I finish the early peacock tomorrow, I will try both seat. Cheer's Fred I doubt there's much difference in the volcanos. Either seat should work in early and late, as long as the guide/cover matches the poppet stem. |
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Post by Fibonacci on Oct 15, 2023 19:07:12 GMT -8
~snip~ It might make sense to make two poppets: one a standard co-molded, and another co-molded with a thicker post. Seems like it'd be easier to make than the cover/guide? No plating needed. Actually the guide bushes are much more straightforward and cheaper to make, just CNC machine and satin nickel plate. The poppets would need the X shaped piece sintered, then CNC machined for the shaft, then the shaft assembled (staked or pressed in) then placed individually in a mould while the silicone rubber is shot around it. Not economic to make two assembly and mould tools for each shaft diameter. |
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Post by spirou on Oct 16, 2023 9:22:35 GMT -8
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Post by Fibonacci on Oct 16, 2023 13:27:44 GMT -8
spirouThey have not the same external diameterCurses, foiled again...
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Post by vance on Oct 17, 2023 13:17:28 GMT -8
I remembered making an internal guide/cover and an old style poppet for a Silver I had. I just looked back in my photo files and found it. It was a Silver with the peacock top.  It gets confusing with the different styles that have the same name and the ones that are the same style but have a different name. |
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Post by vance on Oct 18, 2023 8:39:15 GMT -8
The question I have about the covers for the early, peacock Silver in the post just above is, are they the late Silver diameter or the earlier Snark III diameter?
I don't have the regulator any more, so I can't check it.
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Post by spirou on Oct 18, 2023 11:29:25 GMT -8
Hello Phil,  IMG_20231018_212304_572 by Patrick Michel, sur Flickr This is a silver peacock with new style LP seat, I place a hold style to compare. (The old style is coming from a snark super) This silver first generation had already the large diameter Cheer's Fred |
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Post by spirou on Oct 18, 2023 11:45:11 GMT -8
spirou They have not the same external diameterCurses, foiled again... It is the truth Latin spirit, I felt that Italian and Spanish are close for that🤔 Respectfully Fred |
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