dso
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Post by dso on Jan 8, 2024 17:13:26 GMT -8
No need ta change a t'ing: I like Phil B, dat woiks JB Thanks and I whole heartedly also support the "Sunflower" ... Phil B.
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Post by nikeajax on Jan 8, 2024 17:27:06 GMT -8
You rock 6000% my friend! JB
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Post by spirou on Jan 10, 2024 8:02:16 GMT -8
Hi Phil, just so you know, our friend John has a book about his experiences as a PJ, and why he chose that path. Can we call you Phil-2 or Phil-II, one of our moderators is already Phil, so responses may get a little confusing otherwise Jaybird I'm working hard now on compleing my book, "Between Air and Water, the Memoir of an USAF Pararescueman." Dorrance Publishing wants to publish it, but I may go to Apple Books instead, as there are probably some conditions and expenses to do it through Darrance Publishing. John HH-34 Water Pickup by John Ratliff, on Flickr John Pierson and myself being picked up by a HH-34 Iroquois helicopter from the 304th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron (Reserve), out of Portland, Oregon. This was taken by David Wendt over the Columbia River. Hello John, I can't wait to read your book, i hope it will also have many photos. Respectfully Fred
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Post by dso on Jan 10, 2024 17:22:21 GMT -8
Somebody out there must have a complete USD ABS triple 30cf webbing and block setup...if not to sell ...at least to take apart then photograph the bands/blocks showing how they are assembled and post those photographs here.
So far my quest is hitting a dead end....
Thanks,
Phil B. could not get the edit to function on this post....I have the tanks and only need the photos or to purchase the webbing/blocks. Sorry for my confusion on editing! Phil B.
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Post by nikeajax on Jan 10, 2024 18:28:23 GMT -8
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 10, 2024 18:40:26 GMT -8
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Post by dso on Jan 11, 2024 11:31:33 GMT -8
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Post by dso on Jan 11, 2024 11:37:08 GMT -8
John...Yes I have seen those Facebook posts....but unless I missed it and for the last time....I am looking for photos of the webbing and 2 blocks OFF the tanks such that you can view how the webbing and blocks assemble and how the webbing is tightened using the blocks....mounted on the bottles DOES NOT show how they go together..
I did not see this information on the Facebook posts...perhaps I missed photographs of only the webbing and how it attaches to blocks...in passing I do not subscribe to Facebook.
Thanks for your help...Phil B.
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 11, 2024 17:26:15 GMT -8
John...Yes I have seen those Facebook posts....but unless I missed it and for the last time....I am looking for photos of the webbing and 2 blocks OFF the tanks such that you can view how the webbing and blocks assemble and how the webbing is tightened using the blocks....mounted on the bottles DOES NOT show how they go together.. I did not see this information on the Facebook posts...perhaps I missed photographs of only the webbing and how it attaches to blocks...in passing I do not subscribe to Facebook. Thanks for your help...Phil B. Phil B., I see what you mean. I'm looking at those photos, and the webbing on the tanks appear to have nothing to do with holding the tanks in position. That appears to be a function of the bottom plate, which has the tank's outlines. If you look at this photo: www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163558813674&set=pcb.2388329671368789you will see that there is light between the cylinder webbing, indicating to me that there is no function for positioning of these cylinders by the webbing. It appears to me that the webbing is meant only to hold the fairing's front part onto the cylinders, not position the cylinders at all. I don't know how this influences you getting your set up and running, but it is interesting from an engineering perspective. www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163559333687&set=pcb.2388329671368789It appears to me that the eight screws to the side of the two center pieces hold this webbing (not seen) so that the cowling is held in place. The two center screws are for the BCD to screw into. John
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Post by dso on Jan 12, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -8
John...Yes I have seen those Facebook posts....but unless I missed it and for the last time....I am looking for photos of the webbing and 2 blocks OFF the tanks such that you can view how the webbing and blocks assemble and how the webbing is tightened using the blocks....mounted on the bottles DOES NOT show how they go together.. I did not see this information on the Facebook posts...perhaps I missed photographs of only the webbing and how it attaches to blocks...in passing I do not subscribe to Facebook. Thanks for your help...Phil B. Phil B., I see what you mean. I'm looking at those photos, and the webbing on the tanks appear to have nothing to do with holding the tanks in position. That appears to be a function of the bottom plate, which has the tank's outlines. If you look at this photo: www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163558813674&set=pcb.2388329671368789you will see that there is light between the cylinder webbing, indicating to me that there is no function for positioning of these cylinders by the webbing. It appears to me that the webbing is meant only to hold the fairing's front part onto the cylinders, not position the cylinders at all. I don't know how this influences you getting your set up and running, but it is interesting from an engineering perspective. www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163559333687&set=pcb.2388329671368789It appears to me that the eight screws to the side of the two center pieces hold this webbing (not seen) so that the cowling is held in place. The two center screws are for the BCD to screw into. John John...I see your perspective but disagree...the shell is simply that, a shell for looks [vintage/DS1/Cousteau] and "streamlining" [not] ...the base plate I believe can not stabilize the three bottles nor be able to bear the weight when on the diver but only position the shell over the bottles....and the clincher is that the two large center bolts that pass through the shell, plastic adapter in BCD and attach to the BCD are what support the weight of the bottles on the diver...these bolts must be anchored and clinched to the bottles via the webbing/blocks in order to support the weight of the bottles. Unfortunately so far nobody has come forth to show the webbing/blocks disassembled off of the tanks. I, we, need to see the webbing and blocks laid out it position of assembly but not on tanks. Hey, I could be wrong! Phil.B
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 12, 2024 12:42:22 GMT -8
Phil B., I see what you mean. I'm looking at those photos, and the webbing on the tanks appear to have nothing to do with holding the tanks in position. That appears to be a function of the bottom plate, which has the tank's outlines. If you look at this photo: www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163558813674&set=pcb.2388329671368789you will see that there is light between the cylinder webbing, indicating to me that there is no function for positioning of these cylinders by the webbing. It appears to me that the webbing is meant only to hold the fairing's front part onto the cylinders, not position the cylinders at all. I don't know how this influences you getting your set up and running, but it is interesting from an engineering perspective. www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10233163559333687&set=pcb.2388329671368789It appears to me that the eight screws to the side of the two center pieces hold this webbing (not seen) so that the cowling is held in place. The two center screws are for the BCD to screw into. John John...I see your perspective but disagree...the shell is simply that, a shell for looks [vintage/DS1/Cousteau] and "streamlining" [not] ...the base plate I believe can not stabilize the three bottles nor be able to bear the weight when on the diver but only position the shell over the bottles....and the clincher is that the two large center bolts that pass through the shell, plastic adapter in BCD and attach to the BCD are what support the weight of the bottles on the diver...these bolts must be anchored and clinched to the bottles via the webbing/blocks in order to support the weight of the bottles. Unfortunately so far nobody has come forth to show the webbing/blocks disassembled off of the tanks. I, we, need to see the webbing and blocks laid out it position of assembly but not on tanks. Hey, I could be wrong! Phil.B Phil B., I think you are correct, and I am not. I found this link on ScubaBoard, with perhaps the photo you’re looking for: scubaboard.com/community/threads/photos-of-u-s-divers-abs-advanced-breathing-system-with-triple-manifold-newer-uds-1.388435/John
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 12, 2024 12:48:57 GMT -8
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Post by dso on Jan 12, 2024 13:44:15 GMT -8
John....feels like I am chasing a ghost...none of the images show the webbing bands and 2 blocks off of the tanks....no bands/block assemble information at all.... Phil B.
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Post by SeaRat on Jan 12, 2024 14:45:44 GMT -8
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Post by nikeajax on Jan 12, 2024 19:30:38 GMT -8
John....feels like I am chasing a ghost... Phil B. Phil B, sorry mate, I just couldn't resist it! Who ya gunna cal then? JB
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