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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Mar 8, 2024 8:37:01 GMT -8
Thought I'd share a bit of research I have been doing. I recently chanced upon a Soviet brand logo library online. Soviet brand logos matter for product identification when researching basic diving equipment made in the USSR. The name of the manufacturing plant rarely appears on Soviet masks and fins, just the model name, the logo and perhaps the year of production. I have compiled an illustrated list of the logos of the main Soviet diving equipment manufacturers below, along with the city of manufacture, the name of the plant and the underwater gear the factory produced. Hope this may be of interest.
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Post by nikeajax on Mar 8, 2024 10:00:13 GMT -8
DRW, I like the second one, from Kiyv, Ukraine, as well as the ones from Orekhovo-Zuyevo, Russia, Tallin, Estonia. Thanks for sharing.
Side note factoid: I've always thought it was interesting that Russia doesn't name its war ships, but only assigning them a letter and number combination instead, same with their aircraft. Did you know that they wait for NATO to assign them code-names?
JB
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Mar 8, 2024 12:15:01 GMT -8
DRW, I like the second one, from Kiyv, Ukraine, as well as the ones from Orekhovo-Zuyevo, Russia, Tallin, Estonia. Thanks for sharing. Side note factoid: I've always thought it was interesting that Russia doesn't name its war ships, but only assigning them a letter and number combination instead, same with their aircraft. Did you know that they wait for NATO to assign them code-names? JB That's fascinating, JB. I love your factoids. No, I had no idea, but I was aware that Soviet schools were identified by a number only (e.g. "school No. 12") instead of the practice here in the West where schools are named uniquely after national or local dignitaries or after the area where they are located. DRW Compare "ОТРАДНЕНСКАЯ СРЕДНЯЯ ОБЩЕОБРАЗОВАТЕЛНАЯ ШКОЛА № 2" (OTRADNENSKY DISTRICT SECONDARY SCHOOL No. 2) in the city of Voronezh below. |
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Post by nikeajax on Mar 8, 2024 12:35:30 GMT -8
DRW, in your opinion, how did/does that Eastern Block-gear stack up against that of that of the "Capitalist Pigs"  It seems like their stuff was quite creative, but correct me if I'm wrong, not very innovative, due to the lack of funding, no? JB |
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on Mar 8, 2024 12:59:06 GMT -8
DRW, in your opinion, how did/does that Eastern Block-gear stack up against that of that of the "Capitalist Pigs" It seems like their stuff was quite creative, but correct me if I'm wrong, not very innovative, due to the lack of funding, no? JB You can judge for yourself, JB, from the albums I have created on my Google Drive. My opinion is that Soviet basic diving equipment design was highly derivative, copying what was notable in the West and in the East European socialist bloc of nations to their west, particularly the German Democratic Republic. Where Soviet manufacturers went out on a limb, it was in the case of monofins, which they didn't invent but which they improved scientifically to win international finswimming competitions for the glory of the USSR. Their ordinary fins sometimes came with shovel-like blades with greater surface areas than western manufacturers countenanced. What I do admire about Soviet diving manuals, however, is that they included extensive data about the dimensions and functionality of masks and fins, with comparative tables about the individual models. As for Soviet underwater gear designers, they were hamstrung by the USSR's lack of foreign currency to finance western imports of equipment or materials from capitalist countries. They had no access to neoprene and only started making wetsuits from synthetic rubber in the mid-1970s. Judging by the literature, Soviet diving circles knew plenty about western developments in underwater products. By way of contrast, I suspect we knew too little about what was happening diving-wise in the USSR and we didn't bother to find out at the time. DRW |
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Post by nikeajax on Mar 8, 2024 13:23:59 GMT -8
HA--you fell for my devious trap!  I knew I could get you to teach us something further. I think the Russians are masters of steeling ideas and recreating them with the most rudimentary of resources, and are to be applauded for it, unlike too much of the West where everything has become disposable with planned obsolescence  Like, do we honestly need new cell-phones every few years? JB
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Post by SeaRat on Mar 8, 2024 14:53:47 GMT -8
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Post by cg43 on Mar 10, 2024 8:16:08 GMT -8
You may go in the net and look for the IDA59 and the IDA 71 rebreather .
If you compare both with the same US or German gear of the same time , the result
is surprising .
Greetings Rainer
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It seems like their stuff was quite creative, but correct me if I'm wrong, not very innovative, due to the lack of funding, no?
I knew I could get you to teach us something further.
Like, do we honestly need new cell-phones every few years?
