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Post by nikeajax on Sept 8, 2016 20:16:49 GMT -8
Mark, just for grins, you could pop the one out of your Scuba Star and see how ya like it in the Scuba...
JB
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 20, 2016 20:13:10 GMT -8
Any idea when we can look forward to Healthways Regulators part II, The Single Hose years?
Mark
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Post by vance on Sept 28, 2016 23:12:59 GMT -8
Hi all, new here.
I am new to the forum, but have been involved in diving off and on since the 60s. I have some nice old Healthways gear: a deluxe SCUBA I'm rebuilding and a Scubastar TDQK I've had since 1968. I was guided to this forum by SeaRat (thanks, John!) Great information and just the thing I've been looking for!
I picked up a Hope Page mouthpiece, but unfortunately, the threads on one side are shot. The collar will slip down almost all the way without turning it. It will grab a couple of threads if the hose tube and wagon wheel are left off. Wrapping with teflon tape improves the situation and the collar will tighten down, but is that a reliable fix? The other side has chipped and broken threads too, but screws on and holds. The threads are VERY fine and the amount actually engaging with the collar is tiny (1/8-3/16 inch?).
Any ideas?
I'd like to get it working with my deluxe.
Thanks for any advice you can give!
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Post by sitkadiver on Sept 28, 2016 23:21:59 GMT -8
Hi Vance,
And Welcome.
I have a couple of Hope Page mouthpieces, that are in a liitle batter shape than yours. Unfortunately, they are also showing some cracked threads. When I dive my HW regs I use a USD hose loop. I think the USD straight mouthpiece looks a little more 'vintage', so I use that most often in place of my HP mouthpieces.
Which side is worse? The intake or exhaust?
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Post by vance on Sept 29, 2016 8:07:29 GMT -8
Thanks for your reply. It's the exhaust side. I'd hate to do it, and it probably would send vintage enthusiasts into fits, but I suppose the collar could be glued on with a thread locker for plastics.... a silicone replacement mushroom lasts a long time. It's sort of like repairing and refinishing a broken antique rifle stock... some think it's sacrilege, but I think it's better to get some use out of it rather than junking it. A new threaded insert could be machined maybe? There has to be some technique for repair. I did see this, which is interesting, but it would require finesse. www.plast-aid.comVance |
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 29, 2016 8:51:17 GMT -8
Hi Vance! No, not a rifle, but a shotgun!  Epoxy for both... They ALWAYS get messed up on the exhaust side, the saltwater does it, I think anyway  My method: clean the threads well both on the mouth piece and rings. Next, smear silicone on the inside of the ring. The epoxy I used Devcon 2-ton clear epoxy: mix up a very small amount and with something like a toothpick put it on the effected/warn threads. Check the working time, I think it's about 20-minutes--CHECK! Let it set for that time; after this time carefully put the ring back on to where you feel it just start to bite: STOP! Let set for three to four hours and turn rings back and forth, but do not remove. You may need to cleanup any excess. Repeat process as necessary... I have done this for three HP's, one of mine, and two of Diver-Don's: since DD is a personal-friend I was willing to do it for him. He dives his HW Goldie with it in Lake Michigan, with ZERO leakage... JB |
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Post by vance on Sept 29, 2016 15:17:51 GMT -8
Epoxy for both... They ALWAYS get messed up on the exhaust side, the saltwater does it, I think anyway My method: clean the threads well both on the mouth piece and rings. Next, smear silicone on the inside of the ring. The epoxy I used Devcon 2-ton clear epoxy: mix up a very small amount and with something like a toothpick put it on the effected/warn threads. Check the working time, I think it's about 20-minutes--CHECK! Let it set for that time; after this time carefully put the ring back on to where you feel it just start to bite: STOP! Let set for three to four hours and turn rings back and forth, but do not remove. You may need to cleanup any excess. Repeat process as necessary... Thanks for the advice! I'll give it a try. I just picked up another one (which is attached to a plastic Divair!). I paid too much for both, but what the heck... I wanted to play around with a Divair, anyway. I just finished rebuilding my SCUBA deluxe (new hoses and mushroom valves for the HP on the way), and wanted another project. I was going to attach photos, but: Unable to upload file DSCF1888 (640x467).jpg. Error: This forum has exceeded its attachment space limit. Your file cannot be uploaded. |
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 29, 2016 16:17:24 GMT -8
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Post by vance on Sept 29, 2016 19:13:25 GMT -8
JB,
Yes, I just saw the post about pics. I'm too tired to figure it out tonight. Thanks for the offer of help on the Divair, too. I see that you da man.
Vance
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 29, 2016 19:40:09 GMT -8
It works! Mark  Yes, I need to get the right sized clamps, but it works at sea-level. Save |
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Post by nikeajax on Sept 29, 2016 20:25:00 GMT -8
EXCELLENT buddy--congratulations! Looks like we have a new member of the cult too--MU-HU-HAHAHAHAHAHA!  JB |
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Post by tomcatpc on Sept 29, 2016 21:16:12 GMT -8
It is too bad that blue repro hoses are not available!
Mark
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Post by SeaRat on Sept 29, 2016 21:43:24 GMT -8
Hi all, new here. I am new to the forum, but have been involved in diving off and on since the 60s. I have some nice old Healthways gear: a deluxe SCUBA I'm rebuilding and a Scubastar TDQK I've had since 1968. I was guided to this forum by SeaRat (thanks, John!) Great information and just the thing I've been looking for! I picked up a Hope Page mouthpiece, but unfortunately, the threads on one side are shot. The collar will slip down almost all the way without turning it. It will grab a couple of threads if the hose tube and wagon wheel are left off. Wrapping with teflon tape improves the situation and the collar will tighten down, but is that a reliable fix? The other side has chipped and broken threads too, but screws on and holds. The threads are VERY fine and the amount actually engaging with the collar is tiny (1/8-3/16 inch?). Any ideas? I'd like to get it working with my deluxe. Thanks for any advice you can give! Vance, 'Good to see you here. Before you try the epoxy on your Hope-Page, let me look through my extra dive stuff. I seem to remember having a Hpoe-Page mouthpiece that did not have the metal rings. If I can find it, and haven't already given it away, I'll send it to you. John |
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Post by vance on Sept 30, 2016 7:40:37 GMT -8
John,
That would be awesome. Thanks for the offer, even if you've already passed it along!
BTW, as you are probably not really named SeaRat, my name is Phil. Why Vance? It's a long and geeky story.
Phil
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Post by vance on Sept 30, 2016 9:21:47 GMT -8
Some pics of my Deluxe:    I went through the guts and replaced all the rubber parts and the valve seat. I replaced the old diaphragm although it isn't bad. It's soaking in silicone grease now, so maybe it'll get installed in a SCUBA. Who knows? I'm expecting new hoses for the H-P mouthpiece today! Still playing with the adjustments, but it seems to work fine. I'm waiting to get my old 72 hydroed, so a pool test will be a while. Vance |
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