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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 11, 2005 11:42:45 GMT -8
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Post by BroXton Chuck on Mar 11, 2005 13:25:03 GMT -8
BUT DOES IT COME WITH A BANJO FITTING?
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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 11, 2005 13:32:50 GMT -8
LOL!
who knows, maybe the Cousteau boys weren't that far advanced after all.
Ron
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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 11, 2005 13:38:14 GMT -8
Hi
Its definetly a nice historically significant piece of diving history, but man $4000 dollars, that allot of carrots for a redundant system.
Ron
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Post by swimjim on Mar 11, 2005 14:59:19 GMT -8
Well, you know what P.T. Barnum used to say.
Jim ;D
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Post by John C Ratliff on Mar 11, 2005 15:06:22 GMT -8
I just saved the photos, as to my knowledge, these are the first photos I've seen which show details of the insides of the Cousteau 1970s quad rigs.
Cousteau for years operated on the principle that he did not want an SPG, as it was simply another piece of equipment to malfunction. So basically he reserved one full cylinder as a reserve. In his triple tank units, it was the one with the valve on the bottom. In this rig, it is also the one with the valve that can be operated by the right hand (see the initial photo). When someone went on the reserve cylinder, it could be heard by all the others in the group (full cylinder pressure equalizing between the cylinders). Therefore, not only did the individual know (s)he was on reserve, but the whole group knew, and they would then act on that by heading to the surface or decompression.
This was mentioned in The Silent World, but I don't know of it ever mentioned in print since then. It is not so much who was more "advanced," as what type of philosophy one had towards diving. But I will tell you that having a full cylinder for a reserve is a lot better than using a "J" reserve valve on a set of doubles.
SeaRat
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Post by Turtleguy9 on Mar 11, 2005 15:26:17 GMT -8
Wow, nice.
Any wagers on how high this one goes?
Aloha Turtleguy9
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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 11, 2005 15:40:51 GMT -8
Hi
I say $5500, but I also heard that Leon Lyons has his eyes on them, so that means there sold. LOL Man I'd love to get my hands on those sweet babies.
Ron
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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 11, 2005 15:43:47 GMT -8
Hi
Question! even if they sell and I'm sure they will, can those cylinders actually be hydro tested and stamped as safe for use in diving, The necks on them look Od.
Ron
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Post by John C Ratliff on Mar 12, 2005 12:26:46 GMT -8
I've looked over the one photo that shows the internal valving design, and it does not look very professional. The HP lines look very small. It is possible that even if the tanks could be hydroed, these lines would need replacement. Overall, I like my UDS-1 system better.
SeaRat
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Post by Ron Hearn on Mar 12, 2005 12:56:18 GMT -8
Hi
The tanks definetly are not legal to be certified anywere in North America, The bottom and top of the bottles are welded to the center cylinder. I know the brass air lines look small and unprofessional, but thats just the way they did things back in the good old days of discovery.
Ron
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Post by Captain NEMO on Mar 12, 2005 16:12:29 GMT -8
What? No headlights, steel toed boots or plate glass windsheild? Its not original
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Post by nemrod on Mar 12, 2005 16:30:32 GMT -8
"But I will tell you that having a full cylinder for a reserve is a lot better than using a "J" reserve valve on a set of doubles"
I have never done it but I am pretty sure one can modify the reserve mechanism to activate at a higher pressure by using a stronger spring or some such as that?--maybe. I always felt the 300 psi was to low and insuffient. I would like it to be set around 700 or so PSI which on a 2250 psi system that would be approximately 1/3 air remaining and more than enough for a safety stop and such as that.
This Cousteu system probably belongs in a museum. N
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Post by dortmunder on Mar 12, 2005 21:51:44 GMT -8
I'd bet they couldn't be hydroed most furrin tanks can't but not sure I'd want to get them hydroed even if one could - would detract from the the originality. Remember hydros are not a legal requirement for privately owned tanks, and you are worried about safety you can always have a "illegal" tank hydroed but not stamped. Hi Question! even if they sell and I'm sure they will, can those cylinders actually be hydro tested and stamped as safe for use in diving, The necks on them look Od. Ron |
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Post by sea.explorer on Mar 13, 2005 19:12:59 GMT -8
Well I'm in. This particular set of equipment should never be considered for use. It is too historically significant. The equipment has been modified from its original design and would take some work to restore. On Friday, I spoke with the person who originally assembled the tank sets about the equipment. No mater who wins, I hope that the equipment can be restored an eventually put on display. This is my plan if I am so fortunate. This equipment and the stories behind its development need to be preserved for future generations. Much of the Cousteau story has been held hostage and is lost for now, and will take time to resurface. This process of recovery has already begun through the work of several individuals. I hope that the people who are interested in acquiring the pieces are committed to sharing with others. An opportunity like this does not come often. It would be a shame if it ends up in closet somewhere as a personal trophy. These types of thing should belong to the diving community. -Ryan
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