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Post by Captain on Jan 18, 2005 14:29:29 GMT -8
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Post by bigdave on Jan 18, 2005 14:46:19 GMT -8
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Post by seakrakken on Jan 18, 2005 15:14:08 GMT -8
That would dial it in at about $1000 US. A little steep but, could be done. I wish that AquaLung would post it on their website with some juicy pics.
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Post by Bryan on Jan 19, 2005 8:10:32 GMT -8
I wonder why they built that regulator? The Mentor was filling the gap between intro to scuba and the LAR5 rebreather for the Navy. Could it be a different model or a revision of the Mentor? I'm a buyer for sure!
Dick Wilgus and some of the other folks on here have some contacts at USD corporate. Perhaps they can get some more info for us.
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Post by sea.explorer on Jan 19, 2005 9:18:58 GMT -8
This regulator will be available in the US. The regulator was developed in response to requests for a Double hose regulator for recreational divers. It breathes very well and is comparable to single hose regulators in performance. I was told about this regulator from a source at Aqualung months and months ago, but I was sworn to secrecy. It should be available early this year. I will try to have one at the Wazee get together this year if at all possible. -Ryan Here is a link in German: (Use the Google Translator) tauchen.nullzeit.at/Content.Node/news/2005/01/live_von_der_boot_zweischlauchautomat_im_retrofieber.php
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Post by Bryan on Jan 19, 2005 9:27:41 GMT -8
Here is the translation from Google......Ryan, if you could bring the cute girl in the photo to Wazee as well that would be perfect!
If Lisa reads this I know she can translate it much better for us.
Live of that boat: Two-hose automat in the Retrofieber Aqualung presents boat on that as world novelty a modern two-hose automat after EN 250 standard. Additionally there is the Suunto D9 computer with inserted compass to admire. With two-hose breath automatic controllers skin divers already rose before 50 years in the sea. After the a hose technology held before approximately 30 years introduction, two-hose breath automatic controller was considered as outdated. Aqualung presents boat on that 2005 with the muck ral now however a modern two-hose breath automatic controller after standard EN 250.
This standard prescribes a maximum breath work of 3 joule per litre in 50 m depth at 50 bar. The muck ral fulfills in addition also the requirements when dipping in cold waters. Can additional be attached Oktopus, Finimeter, taring waistcoat and drying dipping suit to the muck ral two-hose breath automatic controller.
Underwater photographers and more filmer become this equipment, with which the Ausatem bubbles ascend not in front at the mouth, but behind the neck, schaetzem know
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Post by sea.explorer on Jan 19, 2005 9:32:16 GMT -8
From the looks of it is a standard single hose (Aqualung Titan which is basicly a sexier conshelf) first stage with a short hose to the second stage which is mounted to the first stage. This would explain the performance of a single hose reg. It is a bit of a departure from a vintage double hose design but it gets the bubbles in the back for a reasonable development and manufacturing cost. We will see. -Ryan Here is the best link to date: www.factory.fr/aqualung/EN_Cata2005_export.pdfRelease dates US: Yoke: Feb Din: March $900 Retail
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Post by bigdave on Jan 19, 2005 10:54:28 GMT -8
From the looks of it is a standard single hose (Aqualung Titan which is basicly a sexier conshelf) first stage with a short hose to the second stage which is mounted to the first stage. This would explain the performance of a single hose reg. It is a bit of a departure from a vintage double hose design but it gets the bubbles in the back for a reasonable development and manufacturing cost. We will see. -Ryan Here is the best link to date: www.factory.fr/aqualung/EN_Cata2005_export.pdfThe photos in the catalog link show clearly what you describe. Interesting! BD
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Post by Gomez' echo on Jan 19, 2005 11:19:13 GMT -8
Interesting design, but definitely not vintage. Sort of like pneumatic tires on a conestoga wagon. Oh well, whatever floats your boat.
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Post by John C Ratliff on Jan 19, 2005 12:17:52 GMT -8
You know, looking at the design, I'm wondering whether the second stage could be detached from the first stage to provide a chest-mouted unit? It certainly looks feasible from what I see, with a longer LP hose. Very, very interesting. I may have to sell some things on e-bay SeaRat
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Post by Bryan on Jan 19, 2005 12:46:28 GMT -8
I thought the exact same thing......That regulator should breathe smooth as silk if it was chest mounted. Plus the hoses appear to be very easy to rotate/swivel on the mouthpiece. Similar to the Drager rebreathers. In that configuration wouldn't it be almost exactly like Cousteau was using with his chest mounted Royal Mistrals ?
I'm anxious to see one! Or at least a parts diagram till I can get one on order.
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Post by Ron Hearn on Jan 19, 2005 17:04:28 GMT -8
I'm getting one thats final, I'm just wondering how they will fit on my OMS low pressure doubles right or left post. Could there be a long hose option for one side or or do I need to dust off my old Aqua Lung double steel 72's?.
Ron Hearn
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Post by justleesa on Jan 19, 2005 17:47:57 GMT -8
I hope that this is a better translation:
Fifty years ago the recreational diver discovered the seas with double hose regulators. Around 30 years ago, after the introduction of the single hose regulator, the double hose was put aside. At the 2005 “DAS BOOT” exposition Aqualung goes to show us that it is far from obsolete, as they present a modern double hose regulator that meets EN 250 Standards.
According to the standards a regulator is required to have a maximum breathing effort of 3 Joules pro Liter in a depth of 50 m at 50 bar. The Minstral compiles with those requirements and also fulfills them in cold water. There are ports available to hook up an octopus, a depth gauge and BCD. There is even a port for a dry suit available on the Minstral double hose regulator.
Underwater photographers and videographers will appreciate the fact that when exhaling the bubbles will raise from behind the diver instead of in front.
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Post by nemrod on Jan 20, 2005 0:55:41 GMT -8
"According to the standards a regulator is required to have a maximum breathing effort of 3 Joules pro Liter in a depth of 50 m at 50 bar. "
What would be the measurements for popular vintage units, Mistral, Royal Aquamaster, Voit Trieste etc. I wonder how far off that mark they are? I know that my new--lol---Royal Aquamaster breaths better --overall--than my Calypso of the same vintage--neither really compare to my Teknas or Mares units in total performance. This Royal I have breaths really good--really good! overall inhale and exhale cycle it is very good. Nemrod
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Post by Bryan on Jan 20, 2005 5:14:48 GMT -8
Thank you Lisa! Your help is most appreciated by all of us.
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