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Post by technidiver on May 3, 2016 16:14:09 GMT -8
Sadly, this seems to be a dying art which I would hate to see disappear. People like PADI sh*t talk vintage scuba, so I can understand that without a large number of supporters it could possibly die off. Is anyone here trying to pass on the skill of vintage diving to someone? Or are there any businesses thinking of revamping vintage scuba?
TD
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Post by nikeajax on May 3, 2016 16:42:20 GMT -8
TD, it's one of those things like being in a secret club... There are a few people out there who will never "Drink the Cool Aide":  This is a picture of my friend Jim; that drink has never past his lips... That's where I got this:  My wife and I are really hoping to get my niece into diving. This kid really has a mind of her own; she wears a Cal or Stanford sweatshirt in Oregon Ducks territory; I'm sure John can tell ya just how nervy that is  JB |
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Post by SeaRat on May 3, 2016 16:46:08 GMT -8
I tried that with my LDS, asking about a double hose pool day. They collect old dive gear, but don't dive it. I dive what I collect. But when I asked about this again, they said that their PADI insurance would not cover them for such an event. So it kinda has to be one-on-one and through forums such as this that the older ways are passed along. I'm also using YouTube to promote some of the older techniques.
John
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Post by nikeajax on May 3, 2016 16:53:24 GMT -8
Huh, I found this image for the "underground railroad":  What if there was some kinda patch for our secret society of deadly divers... JB PS my signature for the forum is exactly what you're talking about! |
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Post by technidiver on May 3, 2016 17:03:34 GMT -8
In honour of the 60th anniversary of the release of The Silent World, I'd like to dive in a vintage themed (although not entirely vintage or PADI would kill me!) with some hard-opinionated divers, and I think that YouTube is a great idea for promotion of vintage scuba. A patch would be a good idea too! We don't have any snitches here, right?  |
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Post by technidiver on May 3, 2016 17:05:08 GMT -8
Any ideas for a modernized vintage scuba outfit? Or does anyone know where ai can get some yellow wetsuit tape?
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Post by nikeajax on May 3, 2016 17:27:32 GMT -8
Gosh, what if we used a lighthouse as a signifier, secret sign/symbol: it's nautical and we try to light the way in the darkness of closed minds...
JB
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Post by tomcatpc on May 3, 2016 20:40:32 GMT -8
I'm a very new diver for the most part, but even before I started actually diving I was interested in vintage Scuba gear. I think that is my nature though. My first car was a 1967 Ford Mustang, I like to shoot old firearms, etc.
I'm hoping that there is an interest in vintage diving as time goes on. I just like the look of the vintage kit myself. I have a old friend who I reconnected with who owns a dive shop is an instructor , etc. and he give me crap for gravitating towards older gear... I suspect that is in part to sell new gear? I just don't listen too much.
My Wife is going to start her Open Water Cert. course this month and maybe if she takes to diving like I did, I can con her into giving vintage Scuba a go?
Mark
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Post by tomcatpc on May 3, 2016 20:42:29 GMT -8
How about crossed spear guns behind a brass diving helmet with a huge dive knife stuck in it as a symbol? LOL!!!
Mark
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Post by tomcatpc on May 3, 2016 20:48:36 GMT -8
Back in Feb. I did a pool dive with a friend who owns a dive shop and let me show up just to get in the water.
I brought my US Divers Mistral and Healthways Scuba Star and a couple people expressed interest... When me Wife does her pool sessions this month I plan on going too and will bring my Mistral and my US Divers Calypso-J. The double hose regs usually garner some reactions...
Mark
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Post by DavidRitchieWilson on May 4, 2016 3:02:31 GMT -8
This is probably going to sound as though I'm repeating myself like a "stuck" vinyl record (another vintage item as well as myself), but let's not forget that from the 1950s to the mid-1970s, the terms "skin diving", "underwater swimming" and even "free diving" applied to all recreational subaquatic activity, no matter whether the person engaged in that activity was breathing with a snorkel or through twin hoses connected to a regulator.
As a vintage snorkeller who doesn't "do SCUBA", it's my "vintage diving" ambition to ensure that today's fins don't all have plastic blades and that today's masks don't all have silicone or PVC skirts. For me, the vintage era never really stopped, because advanced countries such as Japan still manufacture excellent-quality traditional all-rubber full-foot fins because divers there still prefer them to tupperware versions, while Mexico and Russia continue to manufacture decent traditional oval dive masks with blue rubber skirts that haven't changed since the middle of the last century. I've even managed to buy (via eBay) a brand new Russian L-shaped snorkel sporting a blue rubber mouthpiece. As for exposure suits, there is always the all-American Hydroglove drysuit, modelled on the So Lo Marx's Skooba-"totes" made in Ohio during the 1950s and 1960s.
Vintage-style fins, masks, snorkels and suits are still around and if my memory serves me correctly, I spent huge amounts of time in my late-1960s university diving club working with such basic gear before I was allowed anywhere near an air tank. It's a modern idea to introduce beginners to SCUBA without asking them to demonstrate their mastery of swimming and breath-hold underwater skills first. What about confidence-building through vintage snorkelling before graduating to SCUBA, the way it used to be done in the good old days, or treating vintage snorkelling as a discipline in its own right?
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Post by george on May 4, 2016 5:48:24 GMT -8
I restored a Voit 50 that my older brother got new in 1961, he was one of the first crews to have the title Seal in the Navy (UDT) I gave him the reg. back last year and his grandson now uses it, I think thats keeping Vintage alive
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Post by surflung on May 4, 2016 6:07:12 GMT -8
I Beg to Differ... - I think vintage diving is no different than PADI diving when it comes to attracting new divers. There are lots of people who are "interested" and who will try it out. Then there are quite a few LESS who'll actually get certified and start diving. And out of those few, most will only go diving on a few tropical vacations or when someone else sets everything up and does all the work for them. - I get a kick out of equipping three generations of my offspring to go diving vintage on the 4th of July weekend. But the ones that are old enough to decide for themselves are too busy with their own lives and their own hobbies to get real serious about diving... Whether PADI style or Vintage. - Since I ALWAYS dive vintage style to some degree with my double hoses, I don't really think of it as going out of my way to "Dive Vintage". I'm just going diving and this is the equipment I choose to dive with. P.S. - With me there might be some question of my qualification as a vintage purist. In Cozumel I dove my modern double hose Argonaut with BCD, Octo, SPG, etc. And last weekend, I finally finished a project where I mated a 24 lb Wing BCD with the Vintage DogBone backpack so I can dive my XS High Pressure 80 with a properly positioned double hose regulator and not sink like a rock... Geez that's a heavy tank! P.S.S. - I was reminded of how Hybrid-Vintage I have become when I had to go totally Sea Hunt authentic for the Sea Hunt Forever Show in Silver Springs. I had to buy more stuff to comply with the requirements! 
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Post by ffdiver on May 4, 2016 8:46:15 GMT -8
Just for clarification, PADI has no issue with vintage diving as a few of instructors have specialty courses covering vintage equipment. It's the shops that may have a problem with vintage gear and are giving you a hard time. When a shop says my PADI insurance won't cover a vintage dive it's nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 4:59:20 GMT -8
It's the shops that may have a problem with vintage gear and are giving you a hard time. Most dive shops would have little interest in supporting vintage dive gear for the simple reason of revenue. Shops survive on selling NEW gear and training. So there is little interest on the dive shop owners part to encourage the use of equipment that largely is only found used. Sadly we ( for the most part ) live in a cheap plastic addicted world that is getting more and more used to buying the next generation of techno do dad every few years. |
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